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Old 03-01-2007, 09:22 AM   #11
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Well, there was that guy (which I have already posted to this board but apparently you missed that) who was accused of being involved in the Kennedy Assassination... but that's not really a big deal, is it...?

The fact that someone as biased as you finds it reliable pretty much rests my case. Of course, you also find the Institute for Holocaust Review reliable...
Can anyone besides the unfriendly and rude QuiGon post something other than that one error that was widely reported and led to Wikipedia tightening its processes. I provided two links to reliable sources that showed that Wikipedia is quite reliable. It doesn't mean it's perfect, but no book is.
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:23 AM   #12
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Can someone post an example of where Wikipedia is unreliable? Sometimes it's incomplete, but overall I think it's quite reliable. I've often cross-checked what I've read in Wikipedia and have never been disappointed. What is the evidence that's it's unreliable? The links I provided above seem to support the contention that it's quite reliable.
I posted an example as to why it is unreliable, "Liberals Like It"
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Wait a second. So the creator of conservapedia thinks the truth, as submitted and accepted by the populace, is liberal?
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Can anyone besides the unfriendly and rude QuiGon post something other than that one error that was widely reported and led to Wikipedia tightening its processes. I provided two links to reliable sources that showed that Wikipedia is quite reliable. It doesn't mean it's perfect, but no book is.
Lol, that reminds me of the scene in Holy Grail when King Arthur is being insulted by the French guy in the castle and finally asks, "Is there someone else I can talk to?"

Seriously, Patters, Wikipedia is so full of errors you just need to read 2 or 3 articles to spot them. They usually get corrected quickly, but new ones appear in their place. I could give you 50 entries from my edit list of errors I've corrected, but I don't want people to know my Wikipedia login so you'll need to take my word for it. Wikipedia hasn't "tightened up" their process in any sense, either, it's exactly the same as it always was - anyone can make edits, and anyone can correct those edits.

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Wait a second. So the creator of conservapedia thinks the truth, as submitted and accepted by the populace, is liberal?
Lol, Stepehen Colbert says he doesn't like reality because it has a decidedly liberal spin.

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There was a comparative study about a year ago, comparing Wikipedia to Encyclopedia Brittanica. Evidently, their accuracy was rated about the same.
Could you please give a source or reference for that statement...? I would be very interested in reading the study directly and getting a little bit more in depth beyond "there was a comparative study about a year ago".
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Lol, that reminds me of the scene in Holy Grail when King Arthur is being insulted by the French guy in the castle and finally asks, "Is there someone else I can talk to?"

Seriously, Patters, Wikipedia is so full of errors you just need to read 2 or 3 articles to spot them. They usually get corrected quickly, but new ones appear in their place. I could give you 50 entries from my edit list of errors I've corrected, but I don't want people to know my Wikipedia login so you'll need to take my word for it. Wikipedia hasn't "tightened up" their process in any sense, either, it's exactly the same as it always was - anyone can make edits, and anyone can correct those edits.
I don't know, Pujo, maybe in certain subjects it's weaker than in others. But, when it comes to history and literature, I think it's overall quite accurate. Then, as one studied showed, it's apparently quite accurate in the sciences as well. At least in a comparison with Brittanica, it does respectably. If you don't mind, give a couple of actual examples of the kinds of errors you've found. I'd be honestly quite curious.
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Could you please give a source or reference for that statement...? I would be very interested in reading the study directly and getting a little bit more in depth beyond "there was a comparative study about a year ago".
In post 4, I provided a link to an article on that subject, as well as another relevant link.
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In post 4, I provided a link to an article on that subject, as well as another relevant link.
See, this is why I ask for references. There a very important little fact you and PatsFaninVA left out... he said "...comparing Wikipedia to Encyclopedia Brittanica. Evidently, their accuracy was rated about the same."

But, upon checking the article, that's not the entire truth. The report doesn't say Wikipedia is as accurate as Britannica... it says Wikipedia is as accurate in science as Britannica. As I have gladly admitted, Wikipedia is a great source for completely non-controversial information. So Wikipedia is great for non controversial stuff like the atomic weight of helium or Newton's 3 Laws or Franklin Pierce's birthday. But the instant you get into something even remotely controversial, like global warming or the Theory of Evolution or the righteousness of nuking Japan or the War in Iraq then Wikipedia is no better a reference tool than any thread from this forum where everyone is spouting off their opinions.
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I don't know, Pujo, maybe in certain subjects it's weaker than in others. But, when it comes to history and literature, I think it's overall quite accurate. Then, as one studied showed, it's apparently quite accurate in the sciences as well. At least in a comparison with Brittanica, it does respectably. If you don't mind, give a couple of actual examples of the kinds of errors you've found. I'd be honestly quite curious.
You're right, certain subjects are better than others. They have pretty good CompSci and some good physics info. Next time I run into some gross errors, I'll give you a link. The types of errors I'm talking about range from incorrect statistics to outright mistruths, but the biggest thing I see is original research. People making connections between things based on their own experiences, instead of sources. Again, next time I run into examples, I will show them to you instead of editing them out.
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