Seymour93

All that money and we can't beat these guys...

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PressCoverage

ridiculous, isn't it?

imagine what could be done in this country if we spent, say, half that on the military? wow...

Citizen Moore put it best when talking about CEOs... "So you're a billionaire. But, wouldn't it still be OK to be a half-a-billionaire?"

Real World

Socialist drivel. If you want to donate half your money to the government, feel free to. I'm sure they could find some use for the 25 cents they'll get from your piggy bank. In the mean time, don't try to force other people to do the same. If someone has earned money, then it's up to them what to do with it.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Real World

Total dollars versus percentage of GDP.


At any rate, we do spend to much I think, but we spend to much on everything. I say slash an immidiate 20% off the top of the budget next year. Then we might be getting somewhere.

As for beating "those" guys. If we wanted to just beat them, we'd have done it at the push of a button. The problem is, we have values whereas the savage primitives in the picture don't.

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Leo Tolstoy, 1897

PressCoverage

Capitalist drivel. I'm sure "the market drives" exuberant salaries and you have no problem with a CEO making as much as his entire company combined.

Anyhow, I didn't mention anything about donating or forcing people to do anything. .... When you're done arguing with yourself, come back to us.

Patters

Why should our tax dollars go towards an apparently bloated military that merely boosts weapons stocks and soothes the neurotic righties who are afraid of foreigners? We spent 8x as much as China, and no one's even attacking us at home! What a waste.

Real World

Clearly, your agreeing with the man who said "what's wrong with making half a billion instead of a billion", right after saying how much the government "could have done with that (military) money", can only be construed in one way.

This country was founded on a capitalistic system btw. This country is about individual rights. Capitalism is essentially, and individuals economy.

Also, I can't stand it when I see a CEO get a $20 million dollar bonus. Thing is, some people can't stand that I own a home. Put me in the CEO's spot and I'm not complaining, put that other person in mine and they're not complaining either. Except for when they see someone with something they don't have. My point is, where I don't like it, I'm not about to force someone else from not having it.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Real World

Probably is. I'm not saying we spend enough, too much, or too little. I'd be fine with chopping it off the top. The problem is, I think we should chop some off the rest of government too. We spend half a trillion on Education. Do you think we should be wasting money on bloated union salaries, or on the illegal immigrants from other countries? You might, just as someone else might want to make sure we're well defended. Everything is relative. To me, the bottom line is that the government is far too big in all capacities. I could post how much money we spend on education, and ask why our kids are 14th on the planet in mathematics. All that money and we can't beat these guys.

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Leo Tolstoy, 1897

BelichickFan

Actually, we could "beat these guys" in a matter of a day or two but we aren't willing to incur the civilian casualties that would ensue. But we could easily kill the bad guys very quickly.

Also I don't believe the China numbers.

BelichickFan

As opposed to Medicare paying for a million uneeded pills. But that's not a waste, right ?