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Old 02-16-2007, 10:55 AM   #41
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How do you know that's not happening to you right now?

I'm going to be 60 in less than 2 weeks; I think I've accumulated enough personal evidence to show beyond any doubt that it is God who wants stable, true love marriages and families, with one man and one woman forever.

As a side bar, studies have shown consistently that children of stable families tend to be less troublesome to the public (as well as to themselves) than children from broken families.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:02 AM   #42
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We are hard-wired for one exclusive relationship, and not only for our short life on earth, but for all eternity.


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No, we absolutely are not.

We are hard-wired to have sex. Lucky people find someone they choose to honor for their entire life, and who will honor them.
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I think we all agree that one man, one woman is the ideal way to raise a family. I don't doubt for one second that having two good parents is in the best interest of the child. But for lots of reasons, it's not always possible. My father passed away from heart disease when I was 11, but my mother did a great job in raising me. Would I have been better off with two parents? Yeah, but that wasn't an option.

Lots of other things take choices away. Whether it's death, or because a couple finds that they don't love each other any more and can't pretend to, or because they're gay and the thought of being with someone of the opposite gender is as revolting to them as the thought of being with someone of the same gender is to me. God didn't give us an ideal world, so we have to make do with what He gave us.

Having two working legs is ideal for the human body. But the reality is that some people are handicapped and so we build ramps, instead of denying them access to the world because God prefers that people walk on two legs.
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I'm going to be 60 in less than 2 weeks; I think I've accumulated enough personal evidence to show beyond any doubt that it is God who wants stable, true love marriages and families, with one man and one woman forever.

As a side bar, studies have shown consistently that children of stable families tend to be less troublesome to the public (as well as to themselves) than children from broken families.
You know something else? Studies show that children who are raised in a stable family by two gay parents are no different than those raised by hetero parents.
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We are hard-wired for one exclusive relationship, and not only for our short life on earth, but for all eternity.
What happens when two people are happily married, one of them dies, and the other remaries? Are there three-somes in heaven?
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I think we all agree that one man, one woman is the ideal way to raise a family. I don't doubt for one second that having two good parents is in the best interest of the child. But for lots of reasons, it's not always possible. My father passed away from heart disease when I was 11, but my mother did a great job in raising me. Would I have been better off with two parents? Yeah, but that wasn't an option.

Lots of other things take choices away. Whether it's death, or because a couple finds that they don't love each other any more and can't pretend to, or because they're gay and the thought of being with someone of the opposite gender is as revolting to them as the thought of being with someone of the same gender is to me. God didn't give us an ideal world, so we have to make do with what He gave us.

Having two working legs is ideal for the human body. But the reality is that some people are handicapped and so we build ramps, instead of denying them access to the world because God prefers that people walk on two legs.

God *did* give us an ideal world, but our first ancestors made a serious mistake which all of their descendants, including you and me, have paid for ever since. Our challenge is to find that ideal and devote ourselves to fulfilling it.


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You know something else? Studies show that children who are raised in a stable family by two gay parents are no different than those raised by hetero parents.

That is inconsistent with the principle of life which requires one man and one woman. Anything else is an artificial construct that goes outside the original norm.


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That is inconsistent with the principle of life which requires one man and one woman. Anything else is an artificial construct that goes outside the original norm.


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God *did* give us an ideal world, but our first ancestors made a serious mistake which all of their descendants, including you and me, have paid for ever since. Our challenge is to find that ideal and devote ourselves to fulfilling it.
That's why many American conservatives are also religeous fundamentalists. Conservatives want to go back to a "golden age" of America that never existed, fundamentalists want to go back to a "Garden of Eden" that never existed.

In any case, nothing that I've ever read in the Torah (I'm Jewish) has ever said we could free ourselves of the original sin.
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What happens when two people are happily married, one of them dies, and the other remaries? Are there three-somes in heaven?

That's an interesting question. Couples blessed by God are eternal; they will remain forever. In the case when one dies early -- say less than 40 -- then the surviving spouse can, if necessary, have a comfort-love marriage with someone else who has had a similar experience.

They should always keep their eternal spouses central to their lives, but can take care of each other for as long as they live. Once in the eternal world, each returns to their original spouse.


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