FreeTedWilliams

http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...5739-3816r.htm

Why anyone would want to be a BP agent after what Bush did to those two guys is beyond me, however this is a little ridiculous. If the NFL doesn't think that the presence of the US Border Patrol on the border is engaged in fighting terrorism, they need to recall the capture at the border of the muslim Canadian, who was going to bomb Los Angeles on New Years Eve. I don't know about the rest of you, But I would consider that fighting terrorism. Not to mention the thousands of Arabs captured at the border this year alone.

This Hispandering is going to be the death of this country.

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Real World

I read that article. It just reinforces what I've been saying about the immigration issue, it's all about politics and money. The NFL didn't want to piss off prospective customers, just like the politicians don't want to piss of prospective voters. Meanwhile, Joe Taxpayer gets fukced. There is no logical rationale for supporting the illegal invasion.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
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Pujo

For whatever reasons they have, many people don't find the illegal immigration issue to be very important to them. Maybe it's financial, maybe it's racial, but if enough people don't think it's a huge problem, then it won't be treated like one. If an overwhelming majority agreed with you, then politicians would be pandering to that majority.

What we have now is you telling people what's in their best interests. People can decide for themselves what's in their own interests.

Fixit

Hell, I'd swap a couple million illegal immigrants who contribute to society by working hard for a couple million of "real" Americans who are friggin' do-nothing wastes of atmosphere.

Real World

Were you out of the country over the summer when both the house and senate were tryng to hash out an immigration policy, the illegals were marching in the tens of thousands in major cities, and the president had a primetime speach souly to discuss illegal immigration?

Nah, no one really cares.

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Pujo

So why haven't we cracked down?

Real World

If you could swap them then sure, even though they're both red ink, the former is less than the other, as the wastes are truly good for nothing.

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Real World

Have you not even read a single post I've made regarding the illegal immigration issue in this country?

V-O-T-E-S.

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Pujo

You've now argued both sides of the same argument, of course I'm confused.

If they're pandering for votes, then those VOTERS who they're pandering to don't care enough about the illegal immigration problem to want to crack down on it. Those people who they're "pandering" to are real voters, too.

If there were enough people who thought like you, they would far outnumber the voters who don't really care, and the politicians would be pandering to you.

So which is it?

You can't say the voters want illegal immigration stamped out, but politicians won't do it because they're pandering to the voters.

Fixit

That's a pretty good argument.