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Old 02-14-2007, 04:01 PM   #21
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2005, 2006, and now 2007.
do they teach math at your high school? just curious... 2005 was 14 months ago... not three years ago... you're the one saying it... when you say "for three years," you can't actually count the current year that is 45 days old...
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Old 02-14-2007, 04:05 PM   #22
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A quick google of: 2004 Iraq Civil War.


Mosque attacks fuel fears of Iraq civil war
By Anne Barnard, Globe Staff | March 23, 2004

http://www.boston.com/news/world/mid...raq_civil_war/

Civil War in Iraq?
New York Sun Editorial
September 17, 2004

http://www.nysun.com/article/1871

President was told in July of civil war risk in Iraq

Intelligence report adds weight to criticism of White House

Gary Younge in New York
Friday September 17, 2004

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...306394,00.html

This is their civil war

Charles Krauthammer
Tuesday December 7, 2004

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...367968,00.html
well, let's see what we have here that you assert IS the mainstream media... four "examples" of the word "civil war"... two of which suggest "fears of" and "risk of"... one of which was a commentary... lol... well, yes, that's certainly a full blown media-wide conspiracy back then... heck, if you wanna talk about "fears of" and "risk of", many pundits and lawmakers warned of Civil War in Iraq as early as 2001 when your heroes began ramping up the rhetoric in the first place...

the fact is, civil war WARNINGS were a mere spattering back then (albeit, quite accurate)... .civil war ASSERTIONS of fact became MAINSTREAM, CONSENSUS opinion only in the last 12 months...

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Think along the lines of our Civil War, where the army and government fractured, and faught each other. That's not happening in Iraq. Again, this doesn't mean the situation is not terrible.
The problem is our Civil War occured over 140 years ago. What are you expecting? One side to wear blue uniforms and the other to wear grey? No, this is much worse than a civil war because there are no rules, it's chaos. You have three sides who refuse to come together and work anything out. Sectarian death squads are murdering families in broad daylight. Add foreign fighters to the mix and you have a civil war.

This is why Republicans lose big. They deny reality.
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do they teach math at your high school? just curious... 2005 was 14 months ago... not three years ago... you're the one saying it... when you say "for three years," you can't actually count the current year that is 45 days old...
Nope, they taught calculus and physics. At any rate, it was 2004 when the drums of Civil War were beginning to eminate in the media.
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The problem is our Civil War occured over 140 years ago. What are you expecting? One side to wear blue uniforms and the other to wear grey? No, this is much worse than a civil war because there are no rules, it's chaos. You have three sides who refuse to come together and work anything out. Sectarian death squads are murdering families in broad daylight. Add foreign fighters to the mix and you have a civil war.

This is why Republicans lose big. They deny reality.
Look, if you want to call it a Civil War, if it makes you feel better, go ahead. I never said it was [pretty over there, I merely said I didn't view the situation as a Civil War is all. The Central government is in place, and it is not as if those killing each other are trying to overthrow it, as much as they are merely trying to kill people of a different ethnicity. There is no certified definition of Civil War. If you think it is, then fine, your entitled to your opinion. Some in here think that Rwanda was genocide, as do I, others don't. Who's right, who's wrong?
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