BelichickFan

Look at the money that football coaches get. Heck, there's marginal NBA players getting 7 years/$60M - where's the outrage ?

Let the market form itself.

Patters

I think there's an important difference. The problem with CEO salaries is that they're not driven by the market, they're driven by a cabal called corporate boards that are often made up of like minded people, who reward each other. There's no way the market would reward an executive with a multi-million dollar paycheck for flat or negative results. There needs to be some accountability. In most cases, there probably is, but in many cases there is not.

sdaniels7114

Do you realize that there's really no difference between you using your little bully pulpit(your account here) and Bush using his big giant one(his office) except in terms of audience size? What makes it ok for you to criticize what Bush has to say that doesn't also apply to Bush and his choice of targets? I don't even have to be here 'cause your argument contradicts itself.

BelichickFan

Well two things :

1) I have nothing better to do - I assume he does.
2) He's supposed to be a Republican.

sdaniels7114

There is. The individual stockholders have final say over everything. In the case of Microsoft for example Gates has something like 20 million more votes than everyone else because he owns so much more of the company; but most Corporate boards are populated by people with not a lot of stock at all relative to the masses, if those masses all combined and voted together. Now that Bush has pointed this problem out to them perhaps they will.

sdaniels7114

So was 'Trust-Busting' Teddy Roosevelt. How was he perceived in America's board rooms? What President has more cache when speaking about problems with corporate America than the 'Corporate President?'

BelichickFan

Just to be clear, I'm just upset that this is who I voted for in 2000. He's betraying my vote. I thought I was voting for a Conservative. I ended up with this. I'm not saying that he has no right to say it - I'm saying that he's turned out to be a Liberal in Conservative clothing.

Patters

Cheer up, BF, Bush has let corporations run rampant over Washington, getting insider deals, no bid contracts, no effort to make them care for the environment, no new pressure to prevent them from discriminating, no efforts to discourage them from registering abroad to reduce their taxes, no effort to prevent them from merging and forming virtual monopolies, and much more. He's been extremely conservative on most issues.

And, on budget issues, the fact is it's the liberals who have historically reigned in budgets, not the conservatives. At least that's true in the last 50 years. I think Democrats have pretty much claimed the mantle of fiscal prudence, and sooner or later it will resonate as a campaign issue, maybe even with people like you.

Real World

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..............

Don't you understand that the entire thing for some is a business's right to run itself, and it's money, as it sees fit? Some people feel that an owner should: Pay what they want, hire who they want, fire who they want, move where they want, etc... This is a difference in ideology and principles. Some people want the government to tell business's who they can hire, and what they can pay. MAybe for some it's about not hiring a black guy, or paying a woman less, but for most, it's about who gets to decide.

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Real World

You know, that's a good example. Adonal Foyle, yeah I know, he's so bad you don't know who he is, makes $10 million a year playing basketball. 5 years, $50+ million. Where's the outrage? DL Drew, 5 years $70 million, where's the outrage? Michael Vick, $100+ million contract..... Gil Meche, 5 years $55 million....and it goes on, and on, and on....

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