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Old 01-27-2007, 08:47 AM   #1
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Affirmative action... reverse racism at it's best.

One of my close friends, who happen's to be black, was accepted into WVU for being black because they want a more racially balanced school.

He is also receiving help from the school because he is black - not because he may or may not be poor, or not because he struggles with school - he is actually a really good student, and his family is VERY well off. He told me that he is being offered extra help and money which is not offered to white students - simply because of their skin. I wonder how long my skin color is going to hinder me from getting an education moreso then others?
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:06 AM   #2
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Ah, if only you were black, think of all the opportunities you would have. Don't let your envy get the better of you.
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Ah, if only you were black, think of all the opportunities you would have. Don't let your envy get the better of you.

I would have an instant education ... = more oppertunities.
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fleabassist, in all honesty, our country is not colorblind. Institutional racism is still very common. Cronyism and nepotism almost always benefit white people more than black people, because white people are more often in positions of power. The low budget affirmative action is not the best solution to that problem. The best solution would be to ensure that all schools offer high quality education, that poor kids have equal access to tutors and computers, the poor kids can get daycare, and that schools and corporations spend the money necessary to go out, find, and recruit qualified minorities. But, that's too expensive. So, what's left? Low budget affirmative action, which is to just give some favoritism to blacks based in part of their skin color. It's a rotten solution to a big problem, but it's better than nothing.
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fleabassist, in all honesty, our country is not colorblind. Institutional racism is still very common. Cronyism and nepotism almost always benefit white people more than black people, because white people are more often in positions of power. The low budget affirmative action is not the best solution to that problem. The best solution would be to ensure that all schools offer high quality education, that poor kids have equal access to tutors and computers, the poor kids can get daycare, and that schools and corporations spend the money necessary to go out, find, and recruit qualified minorities. But, that's too expensive. So, what's left? Low budget affirmative action, which is to just give some favoritism to blacks based in part of their skin color. It's a rotten solution to a big problem, but it's better than nothing.


I totally agree to that 100%. I understand what AA is for, I just don't agree with it at all. All of this preaching for social equality - why not spend the money to make everyone equal.

Sooner then later we will all be the same color anyways.
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I totally agree to that 100%. I understand what AA is for, I just don't agree with it at all. All of this preaching for social equality - why not spend the money to make everyone equal.
I agree. I would support tax increases (or redirection) to create a more equal society. The right-wing has a history of cutting programs until they're ineffective and then saying, "See, the program doesn't work." That's what they did with AA.

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Sooner then later we will all be the same color anyways.
Yeah, but that's probably a few millennium away.
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Yeah, but that's probably a few millennium away.
Iread an article of a uni-race world and it broke down the mathematics of how long it might take. The number of generations was incredibly small - something like 12 or 13 which would make the total time 240 or 260 years.
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Iread an article of a uni-race world and it broke down the mathematics of how long it might take. The number of generations was incredibly small - something like 12 or 13 which would make the total time 240 or 260 years.
That's pretty amazing. But, I suppose it's plausible. I have two great nephews who are half black and all of them (6 in total) are half Christian/half Jewish (though none are religious). A couple more generations, and it seems pretty likely the mix will get even greater.
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This kind of thing perpetuates racism. It's the kind of thing that will push borderline racists to the racist side of the fence. The government can't change what people think, however hard it tries. Companies can hire a few minorities for show if they want then hire whoever they want. As Cosby said, minorities would be better served by getting their families and commumities to value education more than waiting for the next handout and complaining about it.
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I know many Blacks in your home town Patters that consider Affirmative Action insulting and degrading, they see it as the White Do-Gooder sending them the message that they can't accomplish the job on their own, they are only there because of the color of their skin.

Can you imagine what it must feel like to walk onto a new job on monday morning knowing the only reason you got this job was because of the color of your skin and knowing that all those people that you are now working with know it too. That is a disgusting thing to do to another human being, the Liberal do-gooding people Black and White should hang their heads in shame.

If a company can't find a qualified Minority to do "the job" they should keep looking until they do because they are out there, the Minority's have had over Forty Years to get it together there is a whole new generation of them since the Civil Rights Act passed.

There are just as many whites that "don't qualify" and they get rejected right along with the "unqualified black".

Affirmative Action is now "INSULTING AND DEGRADING" to Balck People all it does is tell the Black Person "You Can't Make It On Your Own"

I would never allow my child to go through that, it would make me cry.
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