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Re: Two Ohio Election officials convicted for rigging 2004 Election Recount
Special prosecutor Kevin Baxter, who was brought in from Erie County to handle the case, did not claim the workers' actions affected the outcome of the election - Kerry gained 17 votes and Bush lost six in the county's recount.
But Baxter insisted the employees broke the law when they worked behind closed doors three days before the public Dec. 16, 2004, recount to pick ballots they knew would not cause discrepancies when checked by hand so they could avoid a lengthier, more expensive hand recount of all votes.
Ohio law states that during a recount each county is supposed to randomly count at least 3 percent of its ballots by hand and by machine. If there are not discrepancies in those counts, the rest of the votes can be recounted by machine. A full hand-count is ordered if two random samples result in differences.
Grier, the worker who was acquitted, was the only defendant who commented following the verdicts.
"It has all been very stressful," said Grier, 54. "Yes, I'm very relieved. But, none of us should have been in this courtroom today. These charges should not have been brought against any of us."
Defense lawyer Roger Synenberg said in his closing argument that the 2004 presidential election was the most publicly observed ever in Cuyahoga County and the workers were simply following procedures as they understood them.
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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." Leo Tolstoy, 1897
Wasn't that the place the Dems were absolutely counting on to win Ohio in the '00 and '04 elections??? Wasn't Cleveland the reason good ol' departed Dan "Ortega" Rather switched his call in the '00 election ??? Florida was all smoke and mirrors for the Dems; OHIO was the big one they were counting on.
My, my, my. So they actually DID try to rig the election. Well, what do you know.
Re: Two Ohio Election officials convicted for rigging 2004 Election Recount
Not saying what they did was right, but fixing it to avoid a re-count is very different from rigging the re-count. Most re-counts result in no change. They should have allowed the process to complete to it's natural conclusion but no re-count was rigged, just the opportunity to have a re-count was.
Re: Two Ohio Election officials convicted for rigging 2004 Election Recount
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Oh, I see. And the reason they took that "shortcut" was ... ? To ensure an honest election ??? If so, then why were they convicted of anything??
They probably didn't want to go through the hassle. I didn't say it was right. But the election, up to the re-count, hasn't been accused on being dishonest. All that was lost was the very slim chance of a re-count reversal. Again, it should have been re-counted but it's more of a technicality than an actual election theft.
Re: Two Ohio Election officials convicted for rigging 2004 Election Recount
its really wonderful that we are looking to influence the world about freedom and democracy. What a splendid example we set for other nations.
shame shame shame.
at least nothing really bad happened. At least our 'elected' leader isn' a psychopathic power hungry bully who is hell bent on world domination. thank God we dodged that bullet!
Re: Two Ohio Election officials convicted for rigging 2004 Election Recount
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Originally Posted by BelichickFan
They probably didn't want to go through the hassle. I didn't say it was right. But the election, up to the re-count, hasn't been accused on being dishonest. All that was lost was the very slim chance of a re-count reversal. Again, it should have been re-counted but it's more of a technicality than an actual election theft.
Re: Two Ohio Election officials convicted for rigging 2004 Election Recount
If you believe the prosecutor, this was more an act of lazyness than an act of election rigging. Still doesn't sit well that it happened in Ohio of all places.
Two Ohio Election officials convicted for rigging 2004 Election Recount
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