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Re: Mass. Pols want Illegals to Count for Politics
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Real World, I regard your defense of the Republican coverup of Foley as peculiar, to say the least. Apparently, you think criticizing Foley can only be political opportunism and thus exploits children. From that perspective, I suppose we should always keep quiet about child abuse, lest it benefits us politically. It actually sounds like you're trying to protect the child abusers by accusing those who expose them as exploiters. Do you think a police officer only goes after child abusers because he wants a promotion? I hope that's not what you mean, but it's how your point comes across.
Defense? When did I defend a disgusting, scumbag, pedophile like Foley? That's right, I didn't. Don't get all defensive over your own admitted position regarding the explotation of molested children for political gain. You hoped kids were molested so "your party" could exploit it. That's not my problem buddy, that's yours.
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Second, for both you and Wistah, while it might be noble from a libertarian point of view for a state to turn down federal tax dollars, who would you ask to bare the burden of that? State homeland security? State programs that feed and help the poor? Drivers who depend on good roads? R&D at biotech companies, technology companies, and universities? The people who depend on clean water, fishing, etc.? Subsidies and monies for infrastructure repair and for low-income housing? What specifically are you willing to give up?
How about telling the gazebo lovers in Lowell to go to hell? How about the MBTA not giving out full pensions after 23 years of service, with the pay out being the average of their top 3 income years, so as to not run a $2.8 Billion dollar operating defeicit? How about not permitting Massport to waste money so that it doesn't have to give it to the state, and is able to carry the same budget the following year? Hmm...what about the state monopoly, ahem, I mean lottery, that takes in over $4.4 Billion, and gives back the state $800-900 million? Why do they only pay back 21% of revenues? How many cronies are getting fat at the lottery? Why were illegal aliens getting housing before the eldery & vets in this state? Why are we paying to teach illegal children, and to treat illegal aliens? Why do other americans have to pay for the retards in this state, who are so grossly insane and ineffiecient, that they can't pay for themselves?
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Re: Mass. Pols want Illegals to Count for Politics
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Originally Posted by Real World
Defense? When did I defend a disgusting, scumbag, pedophile like Foley? That's right, I didn't. Don't get all defensive over your own admitted position regarding the explotation of molested children for political gain. You hoped kids were molested so "your party" could exploit it. That's not my problem buddy, that's yours.
C'mon, Real World, own up to the fact that you're criticizing me as someone who exploits for political gain the exploiter of children, so it follows you prefer defending the exploiter of children. You've got a big problem. Maybe your admitted porn obsession has something to do with it. Either lay off these insulting lies, or I'll just give you the same sort crap right back. It's up to you.
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How about telling the gazebo lovers in Lowell to go to hell? How about the MBTA not giving out full pensions after 23 years of service, with the pay out being the average of their top 3 income years, so as to not run a $2.8 Billion dollar operating defeicit? How about not permitting Massport to waste money so that it doesn't have to give it to the state, and is able to carry the same budget the following year? Hmm...what about the state monopoly, ahem, I mean lottery, that takes in over $4.4 Billion, and gives back the state $800-900 million? Why do they only pay back 21% of revenues? How many cronies are getting fat at the lottery? Why were illegal aliens getting housing before the eldery & vets in this state? Why are we paying to teach illegal children, and to treat illegal aliens? Why do other americans have to pay for the retards in this state, who are so grossly insane and ineffiecient, that they can't pay for themselves?
I'm not saying there aren't flaws and I'm all for efficiency, budget control, fairness, etc. but what you're talking about mostly is state dollars, not federal dollars, and you're not presenting any sort of reason why MA shouldn't try to get more federal dollars given the current system. You're probably against tax loopholes, does that mean you don't take advantage of them when you can?
Re: Mass. Pols want Illegals to Count for Politics
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Originally Posted by Patters
C'mon, Real World, own up to the fact that you're criticizing me as someone who exploits for political gain the exploiter of children, so it follows you prefer defending the exploiter of children. You've got a big problem. Maybe your admitted porn obsession has something to do with it. Either lay off these insulting lies, or I'll just give you the same sort crap right back. It's up to you.
Keep trying to make yourself feel better if you want to. We all know what you said. Just own up, and be honest about it. BTW, I do enjoy watching porn. I'd say 90% of men do, and probably 50% of women too. I'm over 18, and have every right to watch it if I like to.
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I'm not saying there aren't flaws and I'm all for efficiency, budget control, fairness, etc. but what you're talking about mostly is state dollars, not federal dollars, and you're not presenting any sort of reason why MA shouldn't try to get more federal dollars given the current system. You're probably against tax loopholes, does that mean you don't take advantage of them when you can?
Nope, no reasons except for principles and accountability. Who needs those anyways right?
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Re: Mass. Pols want Illegals to Count for Politics
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Keep trying to make yourself feel better if you want to. We all know what you said. Just own up, and be honest about it. BTW, I do enjoy watching porn. I'd say 90% of men do, and probably 50% of women too. I'm over 18, and have every right to watch it if I like to.
That's fine. You continue to attack those who attacked Foley, and I'll continue to defend them. The bottom line is the goal was to stop unethical behavior by Foley and his superiors, and the Democrats did that and the Republicans paid. In case you're interested, that's called justice, which I gather you're opposed to.
Re: Mass. Pols want Illegals to Count for Politics
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That's fine. You continue to attack those who attacked Foley, and I'll continue to defend them. The bottom line is the goal was to stop unethical behavior by Foley and his superiors, and the Democrats did that and the Republicans paid. In case you're interested, that's called justice, which I gather you're opposed to.
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Of course you agree with me on this point. After all you are a party maroon who doesn't care how or why your tardo's get elected, just as long as they GET elected. I love how the possible abuse of children is something that liberals like Patters HOPE to exploit.
If it gets rid of politicians who abuse or coverup the abuse of children, I support it. Too bad you don't.
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Someone asked a good question tonight, and that was whether or not a crime was actually comitted. Was there?
We know Patters clearly hopes so. Patters hopes that children were molested so that his wonderous Democratic Party can exploit it. Woohoo! So much to look forward to this November! Forget the massive defecits and how you want to reverse them. Illegal immigration? Who cares, we've got mollested kids to exploit!
By exposing the issue and exploiting it for political gain, we have the opportunity to pass laws and enact policies that protect kids. That's the motivation. It sounds like you don't really care about the kids. Isn't that how this scandal arose in the first place, because of Republicans like you? LOL.
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Re: Mass. Pols want Illegals to Count for Politics
Real World:Of course you agree with me on this point. After all you are a party maroon who doesn't care how or why your tardo's get elected, just as long as they GET elected. I love how the possible abuse of children is something that liberals like Patters HOPE to exploit.
Patters: If it gets rid of politicians who abuse or cover up the abuse of children, I support it. Too bad you don't.
Real World: Someone asked a good question tonight, and that was whether or not a crime was actually comitted. Was there? We know Patters clearly hopes so. Patters hopes that children were molested so that his wonderous Democratic Party can exploit it. Woohoo! So much to look forward to this November! Forget the massive defecits and how you want to reverse them. Illegal immigration? Who cares, we've got mollested kids to exploit!
Patters: By exposing the issue and exploiting it for political gain, we have the opportunity to pass laws and enact policies that protect kids. That's the motivation. It sounds like you don't really care about the kids. Isn't that how this scandal arose in the first place, because of Republicans like you? LOL.[/QUOTE]
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I don't think anyone would read into what I said what you read into it. All I'm saying that if there's a legitimate issue, then it should be exposed and dealt with. If the Democrats benefit from it, so be it. What Foley did was wrong. The fact that it was covered up by senor Republicans was also wrong. In politics the penalty for unethical behavior is loss of political clout. That's the sentence imposed by the American people. I hope someone else pipes in here. I really think your point is very strange.