Patters

I'll grant you there was once a time the Republican Party was more liberal than the Democratic Party. (In fact, I read the other day that in the 1870s, MA was solidly Republican while New Hampshire was solidly Democratic.) But, if we look at right-wingers without regard to party, they have fared very badly.

They were for slavery
They were for segregation
They were against the women's vote
They were against equal rights for women
They were against blacks participating in professional sports
They were against interracial marriage
They were against Social Security
They were against minimum wage
They were against child labor laws
They were against the FDA, OSHA, and other agencies that protect us
They were against civil rights and voting rights
They were against collective bargaining
They were against legal aid for the poor
They were against environment cleanup
They were against abortion (and just lost a major battle in South Dakota)
They were against stem cell research (and just lost a major battle in Missouri)

Today, they are against gay rights, but as Massachustts, Arizona, and New Jersey, and hundreds of cities and towns, have shown, they are on the losing side of that battle. Though that battle is still young, every year gays take new steps towards achieving equality.

Be a loser. Hold onto the mythical past. Stay right wing.

Real World

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italia44

patters.....

The best indictment of your post is to

let it stand,for all to see

BelichickFan

Some of those I am proud to be against.

Against abortion ? Damn right. Kill those babies

Against stem cell research ? No Republicans are, get your facts straight.

Against Social Security ? It can be done much better in other ways.

Against Minimum Wage ? This is much better set by the states due to vastly different costs of living across the country.

A bunch of the others I just roll my eyes at, I don't think, for example, interracial sports was a party vs. party thing.

Typical crap

BelichickFan

BTW, my dear Patters, this past election does not show that the country is less Conservative or Republican - just that the Republican party had gotten lost. How could they argue about Democrats' spending the way they've been spending ? How could they argue about Democrats' values the way they've been acting ? Etc.

Harry Boy

LEFT WING BABBLING LIBERAL DO-GOODING CRAP.
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Patters

BF, I never said it was a Party thing. I tried to make that clear, but perhaps did not succeed). There have certainly been times when the Republicans have been the more progressive party, not only during Lincoln's era, but also during part of the modern civil rights era, when it was the Dixiecrats who fought equality.

BelichickFan

On some issues they still are. For example, Social Security reform. Moving away from the horrendous system we have and allowing partial privatization where people can be free to save for their own retirement and having a safety net only for those who can't is certainly more progressive than just increasing the SS tax to make sure it doesn't go bankrupt. The Democrats' solution is basically the same as Grandma putting her money under her pillow - hardly a progressive, thoughtful solution.

Real World

Agreed. What else would we expect from a typical fraud.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

sdaniels7114

I don't think its quite fair to say that right wingers were against all those things. I'm 99% sure the south would have abandoned slavery on their own eventually, for example. I think the left and right are better defined as being different in terms of rate of change towards improving things. The left sees the glass as 1/2 empty all the time and wants to hurry up and fill it. The right sees the glass as 1/2 full and wants to be certain its wine your adding and not vinegar. So they're never in any rush.

BF you keep calling SS horrendous because you don't understand what its supposed to do. Its supposed to make certain that no matter what, you don't end up eating cat food in your old age. That's it. Its like insurance, I've thrown a ton of money into a hole called 'car insurance' because I've never been in a serious accident. That doesn't mean I've wasted it.