Dude where's my WMD? - New England Patriots Forums

Zuma · 11-04-2006, 07:24 AM

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=5248

When presidents appear appear at the annual Radio and Television Correspondents Dinner, it's traditional for them to tell a few jokes. But when George W. Bush appeared last week (3/24/04), he made a series of "jokes" about the failure to find the weapons of mass destruction that had been the central justification of his invasion of Iraq.

Part of Bush's routine included slides showing administration officials looking around the White House for something. "Those weapons of mass destruction must be somewhere," Bush explained while showing one of the images, which elicited laughter from the audience of politicians and media figures".

"The problem is not that *someone* told a joke about WMD. It's that as the chief purveyor of the WMD falsehood, which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of Americans and thousands of Iraqis, it is beyond bad taste for *George W. Bush* to joke about WMD. It's the difference between a comedian making a joke about O.J. Simpson looking for Nicole Brown Simpson's "real killer," and *O.J. Simpson* making the same joke".

***DarrylS*** · 11-04-2006, 11:11 AM

Compare this to Kerry's comments, how is it different???

***patsfan13*** · 11-05-2006, 12:03 PM

Dude the NYT found your WMD in their Friday edition.

sdaniels7114 · 11-05-2006, 12:52 PM

The only place the NYT was looking on Friday was the Web there Einstein. Are you saying that the terrorists are gonna Email their next attack?

We executed the Rosenbergs for what the Bush White House did. Of course the Rosenbergs did it on purpose and the Admin just Bushed things up again, so criminal negligence isn't really gonna apply.

***patsfan13*** · 11-05-2006, 01:39 PM

Actually IAEA tipped off the Times. Maybe thay can arrest the CIA analyst who cleared the docs for the web, probably dem friends of Plame.

From a friend who has downloaded and translated a lot of these docs:

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The New York Times published their article yesterday where they claimed that the Foreign Military Intelligence Office (FMSO) website posted few captured Iraqi documents about Saddam regime nuclear program and that these document contain a lot of technological details that can be used by country like Iran to help them in their nukes program. The New York Times said that it was the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) who complained to the US government about this few weeks ago.

Congressman Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee disputed the New York Times article and part of his statement to rebuttal the article he said this “….. Second, my staff's preliminary review of the documents in question suggests that at least some of them may be internal IAEA documents. There is a serious question of why and how the Iraqi these documents in the first place. We need to explore that carefully - I certainly hope there will be no evidence that the IAEA had been penetrated by Saddam's regime.”
Well Congressman Hoekstra is RIGHT. Document ISGP-2003-00020767 which is dated February 1997 talks about Saddam regime spying on the IAEA and working to get “The researches and studies that are done by the IAEA”. The spying on the IAEA was a part of the intelligence gathering that the Iraqi were doing in Vienna where the IAEA headquarters are, also they were spying on OPEC which is also has its headquarters in Vienna, as well as spying on the Austrian government. Although this is a 1997 intelligence work plan, it is not something new that the Iraqis have been doing, they have been spying on the IAEA prior to 1997.

Below is a partial translation of document ISGP-2003-00020767 , page 1 and page 6 of the document.

Foreign Ministry

The Office of the Minister

The Department of Research and Information Analysis

Number: M4/D4/3/278

Date: 3/2/1997

Secret

To: The Embassy of Iraq/ Vienna

The Department of Research and Information Analysis/2

Subject: The Work Plan for 1997.

Included is the preliminary work plan to review it and work according to it and you will be provided with any changes in the future.

Please review…. With regards

Signature

The Department of Research and Information Analysis/2

3/2/1997

B. Important Targets

2. Attempt to get the researches and studies that are done by OPEC and the Atomic Energy Agency.
End of partial translation of ISGP-2003-00020767

PS: If you wonder how did I get the document when the FMSO website is shut, this documents was part of hundreds of captured Iraqi documents I downloaded and saved on CD’s.

***patsfan13*** · 11-05-2006, 01:43 PM

More for ya, with the authors permission of course.:

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The New York Times article to be published on November 3rd 2006 is about the US putting some captured Iraqi documents on the Foreign Military Intelligence Office (FMSO) website that talks about what the NYT and the IAEA call sensitive information from Iraq 1996 "Full, Final, and Complete Declaration FFCD presented to the UN and IAEA in 1996 and that talks about Iraq nuclear clandestine program. The IAEA and the New York Times claim that Iran may be using some of the technology in this FFCD which is a laughable idea as shown below.

That is from the IAEA website regardinf their report on Iraq FFCD presented to them by the Iraqis in 1996: “ 3. On 7 September 1996 in Baghdad Iraq delivered what it considered to be the definitive version of the "Full, Final, and Complete Declaration" (FFCD-F) of the Iraqi clandestine nuclear programme. The IAEA with the assistance of technical experts from Member States undertook a comprehensive review of the document.” Link: http://www.iaea.org/About/Policy/GC/...s/gc41-20.html

So the FFCD was discussed with member states experts of the IAEA. There are 142 members in the IAEA including Iran. I am not saying that the IAEA discussed the Iraqi FFCD with Iranians but the FFCD was not such a secret document and the Iranians would have been able to access it in one way or another if it really provide them with any useful information.

What is important in this whole issue is that the New York Times has ridiculed these documents all along and never payed attention to them including the very important documents that show Saddam regime never stopped its programs related to WMD including nuclear programs. These documents were translated and posted here on FR.

On the subject of nuclear program, I translated and posted a document last month dated January 2001 that shows with a shadow of doubt that Saddam was personally involved with his nuclear scientist to re-build the nuclear program. In this document it states that Saddam personally approved his Iraqi Atomic Energy Agency to re-use nuclear equipments that include something called “Degussa Furnaces” that were used in the previous and prohibited Iraq nuclear program. These furnaces can be used to melt uranium and other nuclear related activities. The Degussa Vacuum furnaces were supplied to Iraq in the 1980’s by a German firm (Degussa AG based in Frankfurt Germany) and these furnaces later on became the subject of investigations of the German firm in the early 1990’s where the company claimed that they did not know that Iraq would have used them in its nuclear program.

The New York Times had an article in 1998 titled “An Iraqi Defector Warns of Iraq's Nuclear Weapons Research” where the Degussa furnaces were mentioned as part of “previous” Iraq nuclear program and the controversy surrounding the sale of these furnaces and the investigations later on(link: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sande..._defector.html ). The irony is that this is not only a New York Times article but also it was written by JUDITH MILLER and JAMES RISEN once of the worst accusers (liars) that the Bush administration lied about Iraq WMD. Where are you Scott Shane????

Link to the translated document on FR: 2001 Iraqi Document: Saddam Approved the Re-Use of Nuclear Equipment http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1725141/posts

Moreover, there are documents dated 1999-2001 that talk about Saddam regime projects to re-build some of the nuclear program facilities like RWTS (Radioactive Waste Treatment Station) and Radio-Chemistry laboratories which were part of Iraq previous clandestine nuclear program. Link to the translated document on FR: Iraqi Documents: Projects to Rebuild Saddam Nuclear Facilities http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718125/posts .

Also this one

Iraqi Documents Show Plans for Prohibited Nuclear Projects http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709390/posts