Holy Diver

Is Amercia as stupid as Bush thinks we are?

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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/103006Z.shtml

While discussing the situation in Iraq and explaining the reasons the United States launched a pre-emptive strike against the country, Bush told the journalists that "I believe when you get attacked and somebody declares war on you, you fight back. And that's what we're doing," according to a transcript of the interview.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...transcript.htm

Continuing to distort the facts, Bush added that "there's some 25 percent or so that want us to get out, shouldn't have been out there in the first place - and that's fine. They're wrong. But you can understand why they feel that way. They just don't believe in war, and - at any cost."

"If we leave, they will follow us here," Bush added.

For President Bush to say publicly that the United States attacked Iraq because of 9/11 is an insult to the more than 2,809 men and women who have died in combat in Iraq and tens of thousands of other soldiers who were maimed, believing they were fighting a war predicated on finding weapons of mass destruction. But Bush is desperate. His ratings have slipped below 35 percent. The public is growing frustrated and tired of the Iraq war. Republicans in Congress fear that they will lose control of the House to Democrats. What to do? Once again, get the public to believe Iraq was responsible for 9/11 and that the war was justified.

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Holy Diver

interesting theory...

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patsfan13

(-11 wasn't the first time we were attacked by Islamist extremist. Saddam was firing numerous times at US flights that were enforcing the UN resolutions. He was also giving sancuary to terrorsit like aAbu Nidal, he was also giving the families of Palistinian suicide bombers $25,000.

I have published links to translated Iraqi's intellegence Service documents detailing meetings with Al Queda for talks on cooperation and restarting their WMD programs.

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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."

Holy Diver

Thats not what he was talking about when he said: "I believe when you get attacked and somebody declares war on you, you fight back. And that's what we're doing,"

No sane person will argue that Saddam was a 'good person' and not a terrorist. Bush is saying he attacked us on 9-11, and declared war against our country. A false statement.

Holy Diver

classic....

patsfan13

What Bush is doing is lumping Saddam in with the other ISlamist. Interestingly I have posted information showing a link between Iraqi Intel and the first WTC bombing during the Clinton admin.

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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."

Holy Diver

I'm not sure if thats what he is doing by saying that....But if thats what he means, its a lot bigger than just Iraq. Most of the hijackers accused by the 9-11 comission were Saudis, who got money laundered through Dubai. Yet we don't invade Mecca and give up port security rights to Dubai.

I see what you are arguing, but you can't have it boith ways. Its Hypocritical of Dubya.

Holy Diver

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Tim McVeigh was Irish, should we have invaded Ireland?

I still can't comprehend how some people can't see why 19 Saudi's were selected for the attacks of 9/11. UBL did that to purposely put a stake in the US Saudi relationship. He was banking on simpletons to see that and demand we invade Saudi Arabia. The root problem, according to this administration post 9/11, is radical islam and the oppressive conditions that contribute to its appeal. That is why the target was Iraq. Iraq was the easiest sell, the easiest to transform, and, incase nobody notived, in the heart of the ME. You know, right between IRan and Syria.

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