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***BelichickFan*** · 10-25-2006, 09:27 AM

I have no problem with this. I think Israel has shown remarkable restraint given that most of it's neighbors nearby want all the people in Israel to be pushed into the water.

Seymour93 · 10-25-2006, 11:50 AM

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Did the United States use them in Iraq?

BTW, I am not criticizing the fact that we DID use them, if we did.

It's just that, "People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

Did you condemn the U.S. military when it used these same chemical weapons on the citizens of Fallujah? I have a feeling that you did at the time. But why not condemn Israel when it uses the same dirty tactics? Hmmm.

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BTW, which country in the world has the most chemical and nuclear weapons stockpiled?

Us or Russia?

Seymour93 · 10-25-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pujo

Seymour93,

What does the international community say about suicide bombers blowing themselves up in crowded cafes?

I don't condone the use of chemical weapons on civilians, but there are multiple sides to this conflict and you seem only willing to look at one.

Do you think I promote some ******** blowing up a bunch of schoolkids or a crowded pizzeria? I understand how people can become that disillusioned into becoming a suicide bomber. It's certainly easy for a young Palestianian to grow up loathing Isreal since its occupying their homeland and treating their people like ****. It's easy to comprehend as to why the Iraqi's hate us too. But you see I have an allegiance to THIS country. I have no allegiance to Israel, so I'll criticize them 'til the cows come home.

***patsfan13*** · 10-25-2006, 12:05 PM

Well since we took Saddam out there have been fewer suicide bombers. Why? he paid a bounty of $25k to the families of suicide bombers.

Real World · 10-25-2006, 12:08 PM

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Israel admits phosphorous bombs used in Lebanon
By Helen McCormack
Published: 23 October 2006

The Israeli government has admitted for the first time that it used controversial phosphorous bombs during its 34-day war campaign in Lebanon.

Cabinet Minister Jacob Edery confirmed that the army had used the bombs to attack "military targets" during its war with Hizbollah in July and August. Previously, Israel had said the bombs had only been used to mark out targets.

During the conflict, doctors in Lebanon reported treating civilians who appeared to have been hit by the shells, which leave their victims with severe chemical wounds that can be fatal.

The reports led the Lebanese President, Emile Lahoud, to accuse Israel of breaching the Geneva Convention, which bans the use of white phosphorous both as an incendiary weapon against civilians and in air attacks against military forces in civilian areas. Yesterday, reports in the Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz revealed that Mr Edery confirmed to parliament last week that it had used the bombs during its operations this summer.

As Terry Francona would say: "I think you need to do your homework".

First of all, WP is not a banned armament. It's simply barred from being used when targeting military interests in civilian areas. Second, Israel admitted to using them, but not to using them in the manner which is prohibited. Third, WP is banned in this manner by a 1980 protocol to the Geneva Convention which nieither the US, nor Israel is a signatory to.

http://www.shortnews.com/shownews.cf...TOKEN=77156212

*Israel has admitted for the first time that it used phosphorus bombs during its war on Lebanon but said they were only used against Hezbollah targets.
*Reports during the fighting said several Lebanese civilians carried injuries consistent with attacks by phosphorus, which burns when it comes into contact with air. Many corpses were "entirely shriveled with black-green skin" due to phosphorus.
*The third protocol of the Geneva Convention on Conventional Weapons, of which Israel and the United States are not signatories, restricts the use of "incendiary weapons" including phosphorus.

Now, what is really interesting about all this, is that the anti-american/israeli crowd is so bias in it's views that it fails to ever mention the blatant violations by Hezbollah during the conflict.

http://www.planetxapps.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=380

Like this one:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...007220,00.html

Photos that damn Hezbollah

Chris Link

July 30, 2006 12:00am

Sunday Herald Sun

THIS is the picture that damns Hezbollah. It is one of several, smuggled from behind Lebanon's battle lines, showing that Hezbollah is waging war amid suburbia.

The images, obtained exclusively by the Sunday Herald Sun, show Hezbollah using high-density residential areas as launch pads for rockets and heavy-calibre weapons.

Dressed in civilian clothing so they can quickly disappear, the militants carrying automatic assault rifles and ride in on trucks mounted with cannon.

The photographs, from the Christian area of Wadi Chahrour in the east of Beirut, were taken by a visiting journalist and smuggled out by a friend.

Real World · 10-25-2006, 12:11 PM

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So, there is nothing wrong with what they did?

Did you read this part:
"During the conflict, doctors in Lebanon reported treating civilians who appeared to have been hit by the shells, which leave their victims with severe chemical wounds that can be fatal." ?

Were they civilians or Hezbollah fighters shooting rockets into Haifa murdering innocent Israeli's? Or is it ok for Hezbollah to dress in plain cloths, park a launcher next to a school or hospital, and target civililians without a chirp from the "international community"?

Seymour93 · 10-25-2006, 12:13 PM

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Well since we took Saddam out there have been fewer suicide bombers. Why? he paid a bounty of $25k to the families of suicide bombers.

Actually there have been more suicide bombers since the fall of Baathist Iraq. The suicide bombers are targeting bakeries in Baghdad and Mosul instead of Tel Aviv now, but that's a whole 'nother issue.

Seymour93 · 10-25-2006, 12:19 PM

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Now, what is really interesting about all this, is that the anti-american/israeli crowd is so bias

Yes, because being anti-Isreal is the exact same thing as being anti-American...

Real World · 10-25-2006, 12:21 PM

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And that story - where Hezbollah supposedly killed en masse the Lebanese and then blamed it on the IDF - originated from Israeli tabloids. So we're supposed to believe the Israeli tabloids who are certainly agenda-free (yeah right) while ignoring the mainstream international press?

You mean the international MSM like CNN and the BBC?

Turd Furguson · 10-25-2006, 12:24 PM

I really couldnt care less what type of weapons are used. This is war.

Good thing Seymour wasnt around in August of 1945.