BruschiOnTap

First off, Adolf Hitler was the only one of his siblings to live past age 10 (and the last one born, his mother wasn't even going to name him) so that argument about 'who knows who you're killing' is not a good basis for this topic.

Secondly, as pointed out by patsfan13, our laws on adoption are so overly complicated and full of red tape (and expensive!) that American people pay to travel IN DROVES to places like China, to adopt children who aren't even of a similar genetic makeup. You should be looking at the social policies of our own country and wondering what gives abortion such a demand; because it certainly is emotional and often traumatic for people who go through with the procedure. What would make so many people believe that killing a baby is the best solution? Maybe if they'd had better sex education, better access to birth control, or a better safety net (parents, grandparents, government welfare programs) abortion wouldn't be the big issue it is.

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BelichickFan

That's the weirdest arguement I've ever heard. I guess we should just kill off every baby then - just in case.

That's an arguement to change the adoption laws, not to kill the babies.

Right because it's always someone else's fault.

patsfan13

We've done a couple of adoptions and that is a huge issue for my wife (whi was adopted herself).

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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."

patsfan13

We've done a couple of adoptions and that is a huge issue for my wife (who was adopted herself).

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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."

Patters

If you view the fetus as a living child, you should be opposed to abortion. If you view the fetus as something other than a living child, there's no reason to oppose it. Most people who use the Bible as their source for scientific knowledge oppose abortion. Most people who use science as their source for scientific knowledge support abortion. If you're truly concerned about stopping "baby-killing," you should unite with liberals who oppose abortion by supporting social programs that will eliminate some of the reasons that people get abortions (lack of health services, lack of daycare, lack of treat for addictions, etc.). But, of course, that route to saving babies will cost money, which indeed for many Republicans is a far greater sin than abortion.

BelichickFan

There's so many generalizations in there, you make me want to . . . well never mind

Anyway, you can be non religious and still be pro life - I am both. I still want to know why if a fetus is so useless that it can be ripped apart, why does it matter how it's disposed of ?

Patters

There are many fine people who oppose abortion and most women find abortion a very difficult decision. For those reasons, the aborted fetus should be treated with dignity. Just as it's clearly not a black and white issue for conservatives (who often support abortion under certain circumstances), it's not a black and white issue for liberals and even for women who have abortions, who understand that the fetus represents a potential life. When a women has a miscarriage, I think people react sympathetically and compassionately regardless of her beliefs on whether the fetus constitutes a living human being. The sympathy here is for the woman, not for the fetus.

BelichickFan

Comparing a misscarriage to an abortion is like comparing a parent who's kid is run over by a car to a parent who slits his own kid's throat.

Sympathy for a woman who chose to kill her baby ? Nope.

Patters

How about sympathy for the woman's relatives who may be opposed to the abortion? How about sympathy for others who mourn the loss of the fetus? How about sympathy for woman who perhaps due to her liberal upbringing fails to fully understand what she's doing? How bout sympathy for the promisculous young teen who gets what you would perceive as bad advice? I gotta hand it to you -- your lack of compassion for anything but a fetus would do a Republican conservative proud.

BelichickFan

YES - I knew I'd make someone proud someday