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***patsfan13*** · 10-25-2006, 09:30 AM

Well Patters it may be that the journal you references isn't counting the use of the morning after pill as an abortion. However if you look at the fertility rates in Europe there aren't many babies being born, except among the Muslim population. Check the demographics in Europe, Russia, China and Japan sometime. They're looking at demographic disasters. This is a result of the culture of death promoted by abortion.

***QuiGon*** · 10-25-2006, 09:47 AM

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This is why when a pregnant woman is killed the family mourns the deead child also. This is why laws recognize 2 victims, and yet we ignore killing children by calling it choice.

Liberial Cognative Dissonance.

That's one of the dirty little secrets of the pro-aborts: They are terrified of laws that could put a criminal on trial for manslaughter or murder if he assaults a healthy, pregnant woman (who wants to be a mother) in such a manner that she miscarries or otherwise loses the baby.

Why in the world would a feminist oppose making a law stricter and/or penalty harsher for assaulting a pregnant woman...? Because they vehemently oppose any sort of legal recognition whatsoever for a unborn child - even a unborn child that is wanted by the mother. They are obsessed with making sure all unborn children (wanted or unwanted) remain as complete legal non-entities.

Real World · 10-25-2006, 10:16 AM

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Life involves choices and RESPONSIBILITY.

Responsibility is a word foreign to a liberals vocabulary.

Real World · 10-25-2006, 10:23 AM

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It amazes me that so many of you have such a simplistic understanding of abortion. You seem to think that for these women, abortion is nothing more than a standard procedure. You seem to think that for these women, it's not an emotional and difficult decision. You seem to forget that many women who have abortions are religious and some even regard abortion as a terrible thing. Your utter contempt for those women who make the extremely difficult decision to have an abortion makes me think you don't care for human life, you care for power over women. You have no sympathy for the impoverished, frightened women who make this difficult decision. The real tragedy in this is your utter lack of compassion for human beings, some of them victims of all sorts of abuse or lacking anyone to help them out (due in part to tax cuts to social programs). If you're really against abortion then you would want to do more for kids and mothers in terms of health care, day care, job training, and time off. I believe most of you are hypocrites, and seeing how you for so long embraced a war that's killed thousands of innocent people, I don't believe you give a damn for the "unborn."

Typical liberal non sequitor. The War & abortion. Anyways.....

PAtters, you are the epitomy of a lefty loon. You are about as illogical, and out of touch with reality as can be. I know many women who have had MULTIPLE abortions. These women are irresponsible, immature children who do it as a matter of convenience. My issue with abortion is simplisitic, it's murder. I think most pro-life individuals like myself have no issue with it in cases of rape, incest, or life risk. You loons don't want to hear that. You people constantly scream "it's my body" or "it's a womans choice". HA! You murderers can talk all you want about us not caring if it makes you feel better, but the bottom line is you loons are baby killers. If a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want the child, then she should have it and give it up for adoption. It's that simple. There are countless couples out there who would do anything for the chance to have a child. Why can't these women do that? Oh yeah, it's their body. It's their "right & choice".

Murderers.

Real World · 10-25-2006, 10:34 AM

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Well Patters it may be that the journal you references isn't counting the use of the morning after pill as an abortion. However if you look at the fertility rates in Europe there aren't many babies being born, except among the Muslim population. Check the demographics in Europe, Russia, China and Japan sometime. They're looking at demographic disasters. This is a result of the culture of death promoted by abortion.

Well I know in Italy this is true. The governemnt in Italy is so concerned with the lack of newborns that they have begun to offer tax incentives for couple that have children. Europe as a whole is suffering from a decrease in child births. The fear, and it's more a reality if you ask me, is that the already red lined bank rolls of the socialist systems will go bancrupt with decreasing population and increasing life expectencies of the pensioned elderly. With fewer people paying in, even fewer being born to fill the ranks, and larger numbers collecting, Europe is in serious fiscal trouble.

BruschiOnTap · 10-25-2006, 10:48 AM

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I am amazed at the 'mother' who was distressed that the Hospital burned her 'dead baby' rahter than bury the baby. Wait a minute she's talking about the baby she decided to murder.... cognative dissonance anyone? Goofy libs.

you're so spot on... though I think abortion is a necessary evil and should absolutely be legalized

BruschiOnTap · 10-25-2006, 10:52 AM

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Typical liberal non sequitor. The War & abortion. Anyways.....

PAtters, you are the epitomy of a lefty loon. You are about as illogical, and out of touch with reality as can be. I know many women who have had MULTIPLE abortions. These women are irresponsible, immature children who do it as a matter of convenience. My issue with abortion is simplisitic, it's murder. I think most pro-life individuals like myself have no issue with it in cases of rape, incest, or life risk. You loons don't want to hear that. You people constantly scream "it's my body" or "it's a womans choice". HA! You murderers can talk all you want about us not caring if it makes you feel better, but the bottom line is you loons are baby killers. If a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want the child, then she should have it and give it up for adoption. It's that simple. There are countless couples out there who would do anything for the chance to have a child. Why can't these women do that? Oh yeah, it's their body. It's their "right & choice".

Murderers.

BEtter those multiple abortions be carried out than the children be born to mothers who don't want them and create a bigger strain on the welfare system through the course of their lives. Seriously, what good comes from those births??? If it weren't legalized then those same women would find coat-hangers or resort to a black market. Yeah that sounds like a better option

***BelichickFan*** · 10-25-2006, 10:59 AM

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Better those multiple abortions be carried out than the children be born to mothers who don't want them and create a bigger strain on the welfare system through the course of their lives. Seriously, what good comes from those births???

What good comes from them ?

I wonder who was never born and what they might have accomplished.

I've heard there's a good market for adoptions, btw. You abortion on demand people disgust me,

***patsfan13*** · 10-25-2006, 11:36 AM

Exactly there is a shortage of children available for adoption, the laws also custody laws, make it hard for people to adopt in this country

***BelichickFan*** · 10-25-2006, 11:47 AM

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Exactly there is a shortage of children available for adoption, the laws also custody laws, make it hard for people to adopt in this country

Yeah, the custody thing is a real problem. It took a while for my wife to get pregnant (best year of my life

) so I took a cursory look into adoption but quickly realized that I couldn't adopt and know there could be a knock at the door any day with the birthmother legally being able to take the child back.