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You missed a lot. For instance, you missed Bob Livingstone, who Republicans wanted as Speaker of the House before Hastert. After Larry Flynt threatened to expose his political misdeeds, Livingstone's wife called Flynt and pleaded with him not to do so. He agreed not to provided that Livingstone resigned. We should have known then that Republicans are attracted to that kind of sleaze.
Attracted ???? It seems the rank and file caught wind of Livingstone's track record they forced him out. Iheard of no one thinking he was fit for office.
It would be interesting if we got rid of all the adulterers in addition to the sexual predators.
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At any rate, why do you allude to Studds, and not Crane, the Republican who was censured for having sex with a page at the same time Studds was? For every sleazy Democrat you can name, I'm sure I can name a sleazy Republican. What makes the Foley case so interesting is that the Republicans attempted to cover it up. If they had succeeded, then Foley would have gone on with his perverted behavior.
Studds unlike Crane was retained in office and given a commitee chairmanship, which as you are aware is highly prized in DC. Crane's career was ended by his misdeeds, not Studds.
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You missed a lot. For instance, you missed Bob Livingstone, who Republicans wanted as Speaker of the House before Hastert. After Larry Flynt threatened to expose his political misdeeds, Livingstone's wife called Flynt and pleaded with him not to do so. He agreed not to provided that Livingstone resigned. We should have known then that Republicans are attracted to that kind of sleaze. At any rate, why do you allude to Studds, and not Crane, the Republican who was censured for having sex with a page at the same time Studds was? For every sleazy Democrat you can name, I'm sure I can name a sleazy Republican. What makes the Foley case so interesting is that the Republicans attempted to cover it up. If they had succeeded, then Foley would have gone on with his perverted behavior.
I was litterally asking what I missed. Remember, I'm 32, so some of the news items of yesteryear are sometimes out of my loop. I'm not trying to point fingers at a specific party here, I'm simply trying to point out the sex related sleeze that inhabits our political system.
Found Dan Crane on Wilki Patters:
On July 14, 1983 the House Ethics Committee concluded that Rep. Dan Crane (R-Ill.) and Rep. Gerry Studds (D-Mass.) had engaged in sexual relationships with minors, specifically 17-year-old congressional pages. In Crane's case, it was a 1980 relationship with a female page and in Studds's case, it was a 1973 relationship with a male page. Both representatives immediately pleaded guilty to the charges and the committee decided to simply reprimand the two.
However, Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) demanded their expulsion. On July 20, 1983, the House voted for censure, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct. Crane, who subsequently apologized for his transgression, lost his bid for reelection in 1984.
Amazing that each was only censured. What a joke. Just goes to show you that politicians are elitists who feel they are above the law. Totally outrageous.
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We should have known then that Republicans are attracted to that kind of sleaze.
Ahh, some partisan hackery of your own to counter Qui Gon's?
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For every sleazy Democrat you can name, I'm sure I can name a sleazy Republican.
That's the problem, there's no shortage of sleaze in Washington. For every sleazy Democrat there's a sleazy Republican and for every sleazy Republican there's a sleazy Democrat. What's that prove? Either way, we the people get the short end of the bargain.
Found Bob Livingston too. The headline is somewhat funny, "Clinton urges him to reconsider". Gee, I wonder why?
Livingston bows out of the speakership
He makes a stunning announcement on House floor; Clinton urges him to reconsider
December 19, 1998
Web posted at: 3:37 p.m. EST (2037 GMT)
WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, December 19) -- House Speaker-elect Bob Livingston, reeling from the admission of his own marital infidelities, stunned Washington Saturday by announcing he would not run for speaker when the 106th Congress convenes next month and will quit the House in mid-1999.
Livingston, 55, made his surprise announcement as the House resumed its historic impeachment debate, just two days after he said revelations about his adultery would not drive him from his leadership role. His announcement could set off a new scramble to succeed him among the GOP leadership.
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Through a spokesman, President Bill Clinton urged Livingston to reconsider his decision, saying he liked and respected him and felt that they could work together on a bipartisan basis. (1008K wav audio file)
"I think the president firmly believes the politics of personal destruction has to ... come to an end," White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart said. "We need to stop playing these kinds of games in Washington."
House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt also urged Livingston to reconsider. "We need to stop destroying imperfect people at the altar of an unattainable morality," Gephardt said.
You know, I find Gephardt's comments a bit upsetting. Sure, nobody is perfect, and I'm sure that people are not looking for the chior boy as a president. I think the people are willing to, and do excuse certain acts or behaviors. But when your talking about a grown man repeatedly cheating on his wife, I think we're a bit beyond the scope of moral acceptability don't you think? This is what bugs me about these elitist bums. They think that they are movie stars or royalty.
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You know, I find Gephardt's comments a bit upsetting. Sure, nobody is perfect, and I'm sure that people are not looking for the chior boy as a president. I think the people are willing to, and do excuse certain acts or behaviors. But when your talking about a grown man repeatedly cheating on his wife, I think we're a bit beyond the scope of moral acceptability don't you think? This is what bugs me about these elitist bums. They think that they are movie stars or royalty.
I guess it depends on the marriage they had. Maybe they haven't slept in the same bed for 10 years and only stay together for appearances, or the kids? I don't know what their actual situation is, and I'm not condoning adultery, but adultery isn't the same thing as raping children, there's no element of assault.
I was litterally asking what I missed. Remember, I'm 32, so some of the news items of yesteryear are sometimes out of my loop. I'm not trying to point fingers at a specific party here, I'm simply trying to point out the sex related sleeze that inhabits our political system.
Found Dan Crane on Wilki Patters:
On July 14, 1983 the House Ethics Committee concluded that Rep. Dan Crane (R-Ill.) and Rep. Gerry Studds (D-Mass.) had engaged in sexual relationships with minors, specifically 17-year-old congressional pages. In Crane's case, it was a 1980 relationship with a female page and in Studds's case, it was a 1973 relationship with a male page. Both representatives immediately pleaded guilty to the charges and the committee decided to simply reprimand the two.
However, Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) demanded their expulsion. On July 20, 1983, the House voted for censure, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct. Crane, who subsequently apologized for his transgression, lost his bid for reelection in 1984.
Amazing that each was only censured. What a joke. Just goes to show you that politicians are elitists who feel they are above the law. Totally outrageous.
The ARROGANT bastard Studds had the nerve to stand with his back to the Membership as they were censuring him, the rat turned his back on them, these vermin like Studds and Foley see nothing at all wrong with Sodomizing children, they consider the children "little pieces of meat".
Look at a picture of Studds he has pervert written all over his face he looks like a "child molester".
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The ARROGANT bastard Studds had the nerve to stand with his back to the Membership as they were censuring him, the rat turned his back on them, these vermin like Studds and Foley see nothing at all wrong with Sodomizing children, they consider the children "little pieces of meat".
Look at a picture of Studds he has pervert written all over his face he looks like a "child molester".
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Let's not forget that what Studds did was legal, the page was 17 at the time which was beyond the age of consent. It's still unethical to sleep with a subordinate, and for that he deserved censure, but it was a consensual relationship and not a sex crime.
Let's not forget that what Studds did was legal, the page was 17 at the time which was beyond the age of consent. It's still unethical to sleep with a subordinate, and for that he deserved censure, but it was a consensual relationship and not a sex crime.
The age of consent in DC is 16 Foley contact these guys after they left the page program, and they were legal also. It's still wrong if not illegal.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
The age of consent in DC is 16 Foley contact these guys after they left the page program, and they were legal also. It's still wrong if not illegal.
Yes, it is wrong. Which is why Foley's resignation was appropriate (Studds should have resigned, too), but a castration may be harsh considering he didn't break the law.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
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