Real World

I hope that you were being sarcastic.



The permit question ragarding the sound proofing foam interests me also. As for the fireworks, whatever moron lit them should be in jail. You need a special permit for that, and also have to have a fire detail present if a permit is given. But a permit would never have been granted for that place to shoot off fireworks indoors. Not a chance.

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DarrylS

Did not respond to the Bouncer thing, cause what can I say someone who was impacted at this fire..a participant said so on the news... there is not much of anything to add to it. I don't make up stuff like this..

Your comparison of Frank Darigan to Maria Lopez sucks, it is like comparing raisins to grapefruit. Darigan is a respected, accomplished jurist who has the respect of the legal community... while I do not agree with his decision, I think you will find that is integrity is uncompromised. He had a need to keep order in the courtroom, so he set some parameters.. if not it may have turned into a free for all.

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sdaniels7114

Edit: this is in response to Real World's post. GJAJ15 slipped in ahead of me.


I just put some Cork flooring into the wine-tasting room at a snooty liquor store in the Boston area. (It looks spectacular btw, I'd highly recommend it to anyone of means because its expensive as all get out.) Now I know the stuff I installed meets all the fire codes everywhere; but only because I know the company that made it. Lets say 10 years from now the store chooses to have somebody replace the floor with a similar looking product that doesn't meet the codes. Fyi Cork comes off the tree about as flammable as a gas-soaked rag. The manufacturer who turns it into a floor product has to treat it to make it safe. That treatment doesn't change the look at all. How's a fire inspector who pops in a few times per year supposed to notice?

Same thing with the walls at the Station. I'm sure they were white before the insulation went up and white after. what if the insulation was inside the walls? What if it was simply a matter of the glue used to adhere the insulation being the culprit? There's got to be at least a million things you could do to a building that the inspector has no chance at spotting at all.

Real World

He's supposed to notice because the property owner would have had to have pulled a permit to remodel the office. Furthermore, if it were commercial property, and a new tenant was outfitting the leased property to fit his business's needs, a permit would most deffinately be involved. When he goes to city hall, the inspector will ask what is being done, and determine what permits would be required. As the work is being completed, inspectors would have to sign the back of the permit as an indication of a passed inspection. This is especially true with commercial property. For example, we remodelled our office 2 years ago. The work required us to obtain a permit which had to be pulled by a "licensed general contractor" which my father is. Everything had to be done to code, including using fire rated glass in the side lights of the doors we installed. We had to provide documentation from the installer that it was indeed fire rated glass in order to get the needed city signatures. Had we not gotten the permits, remodelled the office on our own, and later had a fire in which people lost their lives, then we would be responsible. By obtaining the proper permits, we now have legal documentation that shows our building is proper and up to code.

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sdaniels7114

I can see now you argue just for the sake of arguing. I specifically said that if a permit was pulled for putting up the insulation then the inspector should be nailed for not noticing it wasn't the right kind.

I just think its silly for an inspector who's there to check for fire extinguishers and emergency lighting to be blamed because he didn't notice a wall being a little newer looking than when he last came by.

Real World

I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing. The whole point was regarding the foam insulation & a permit. If the owners put it in and hid it without aquiring the necessary permits, then sure, hard to blame the inspector. You implied by your floor example that because it looked the same, the inspector wouldn't notice. My point is that when you pull a permit, it's the inspectors job to notice.

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