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The network has in recent days made changes to the film, set to air Sunday and Monday, after leading political figures, many of them Democrats, complained about bias and alleged inaccuracies. Meanwhile, a left-wing organization has launched a letter-writing campaign urging the network to "correct" or dump the miniseries, while conservative blogs have launched a vigorous defense.
"The Path to 9/11," whose large ensemble includes Harvey Keitel and Patricia Heaton, offers a panoramic sweep of the events leading up to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The movie dramatizes what it deems intelligence and operational failures of the Clinton and Bush administrations, relying heavily on public records. Thomas Kean, the chairman of the 9/11 commission, served as a consultant.
After a screening of the first episode in Washington last week, some audience members attacked the film's depiction of the Clinton administration's pursuit of Osama bin Laden. Among those unhappy was Richard Ben-Veniste, an attorney and member of the 9/11 commission whom some conservatives have dismissed as a Democratic attack dog. Richard A. Clarke, the former counterterrorism czar, has criticized the movie for suggesting that the Clinton administration was in a position to capture Bin Laden in 1998 but canceled the mission at the last minute.
After much discussion, ABC executives and the producers toned down, but did not eliminate entirely, a scene that involved Clinton's national security advisor, Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, declining to give the order to kill Bin Laden, according to a person involved with the film who declined to be identified because of the sensitivities involved.
"That sequence has been the focus of attention," the source said, adding: "These are very slight alterations."
In addition, the network decided that the credits would say the film is based "in part" on the 9/11 commission report, rather than simply "based on" the bestselling report, as the producers originally intended.
ABC, meanwhile, is tip-toeing away from the film's version of events. In a statement, the network said the miniseries "is a dramatization, not a documentary, drawn from a variety of sources, including the 9/11 commission report, other published materials and from personal interviews."
The statement adds: "The events that lead to 9/11 originally sparked great debate, so it's not surprising that a movie surrounding those events has revived the debate. The attacks were a pivotal moment in our history that should never be forgotten and it's fitting that the discussion continues."
None of ABC's moves is likely to quell the debate, however.
The Center for American Progress Action Fund, a liberal advocacy group, said on Wednesday it had collected 25,000 letters asking ABC to either correct or cancel the miniseries. "The miniseries presents an agenda that blames the Clinton administration for the 9/11 attacks while ignoring numerous errors and failures of the Bush administration," the center said in a news release.
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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." Leo Tolstoy, 1897
Yep, Just like CBS caved in to the crybaby righties when CBS wanted to broadcast a biopic of Reagan that suggested he was a bit senile. CBS actually never showed it on their network, but instead broadcast it on cable. Yep, typical left wing BS, but one should never give the righties credit for being farsighted. What goes around comes around, and ELOrocks, the times they are a'changin'.
Yep, Just like CBS caved in to the crybaby righties when CBS wanted to broadcast a biopic of Reagan that suggested he was a bit senile. CBS actually never showed it on their network, but instead broadcast it on cable. Yep, typical left wing BS, but one should never give the righties credit for being farsighted. What goes around comes around, and ELOrocks, the times they are a'changin'.
Slight difference Patters--the Regan biopic was about 1 thing..Regan, the 9-11 film is not about Clinton..its about his atrocious behavior surrounding 9-11
Slight difference Patters--the Regan biopic was about 1 thing..Regan, the 9-11 film is not about Clinton..its about his atrocious behavior surrounding 9-11
Oh, ELOrocks, please, I can't even believe that you believe your rationalization here. There's no difference. Each movie was offensive in some way to a powerful political constituency. I guarantee that if ABC's movie was highly critical of Bush, the Republicans would be doing all they could to stop it.
The Democrats and all their "Freedom Blubbering" are full of *****.
Clinton has always been so worried about his legacy in history, well, Billy Blue Dress' legacy is and always will be "HE IS NOTHING BUT A F-CKING DIRTY JOKE" the history students of the future will all be giggling and snickering whenever the a$s holes name is mentioned.
President Wiliam Masturbation Clinton
CLINTON HAD EIGHT YEARS
BUSH HAD EIGHT MONTHS
The Democrat Censorship of the ABC show has been reported, the people know, Fox News, Coulter, Limbaugh, Bloggers, Internet, ect these outlets won't let it die, this is a good thing the f-cking dingobats have done, it shows the country what biased sore losing untruthful phony bastards they really are.
CLINTON HAD EIGHT YEARS
BUSH HAD EIGHT MONTHS don't the left wing morons think the people don't know this, how do you stop an attack plan that had been worked on and rehearsed for almost a decade in eight months.
CLINTON WAS HAVING SEX WITH MOVIE STARS WHILE MOHAMMAD ATTA WAS LEARNING HOW TO FLY BUT NOT LAND, IN CLINTONS AMERICA.
The Democrats and all their "Freedom Blubbering" are full of *****.
Harry, you hypocrite, you know as well as I do the freedom blubbering Republicans would do the same thing, and did do the same thing in stopping the biopic of Reagan, and attempting to stop Michael Moore' F-9/11.
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Clinton has always been so worried about his legacy in history, well, Billy Blue Dress' legacy is and always will be "HE IS NOTHING BUT A F-CKING DIRTY JOKE" the history students of the future will all be giggling and snickering whenever the a$s holes name is mentioned.
It's the media who talks about legacy, not Clinton. Clinton's pointed out that his legacy won't be decided until long after he's gone. Right now, politics clouds the legacy of every president for the last 40 or so years.
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President Wiliam Masturbation Clinton
What is it with you? Are you some kind of pervert? You are so obsessed with something that most people regard as not all that significant. If you were obsessed with his perjury or even his adultery, that would be a different matter. But, you risk coming across as a dirty old man with your obsession about the dress and Clinton's penis. Quit it already.
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CLINTON HAD EIGHT YEARS
BUSH HAD EIGHT MONTHS
Actually, Clinton didn't have 8 years. The plan for 9/11 was hatched two years prior to 9/11. Also, Bush had the advantage of all the intelligence gathered during the Clinton administration, and even with that, he failed. Under Bush, 6,000 Americans have died so far. (That's his legacy.)
To give this docudrama the gravitas it deserves, there should be a scene with all of the Clintonites running around the West Wing at ludicrously high speed with the theme from the Benny Hill show playing in background as Osama slips through the hands of the special forces guys just waiting for Presidential authorization before blasting him.
Its documentaries like this that make me wonder if Charlie Manson isn't really just a totally misunderstood hippy. All I really know about his life is from Helter Skelter.
Who knows, I skipped the Reagan doc, so I don't know squat about it, and unless both evening Football games this weekend suck, I doubt I'll be able to speak of this one either. It does sound like this is the absolute end for all but the most hard-core nitwitcons to spout on and on about how TV is biased towards the left, although I'm sure it won't stop ours.
Yep, Just like CBS caved in to the crybaby righties when CBS wanted to broadcast a biopic of Reagan that suggested he was a bit senile. CBS actually never showed it on their network, but instead broadcast it on cable. Yep, typical left wing BS, but one should never give the righties credit for being farsighted. What goes around comes around, and ELOrocks, the times they are a'changin'.
Patters, the outrage over that show was due to the timing. Reagan had just died, and many felt it was a tad insensitive to run the show. I think the outrage by the Clinton'ites is very telling. I think they understand that the sheeple they've so relied on could very well believe everything they see and hear on TV. This stuff is too funny.
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Oh, ELOrocks, please, I can't even believe that you believe your rationalization here. There's no difference. Each movie was offensive in some way to a powerful political constituency. I guarantee that if ABC's movie was highly critical of Bush, the Republicans would be doing all they could to stop it.
yeah one was aimed at depicting the onset of Alzhimers (spelling) and the other depicts the travishamockery of an entire adminstration and nation. Same thing eh?
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