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Old 07-13-2006, 08:01 PM   #1
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From now on lets agree that links from the following websites are NOT considered reliable and therfore cannot be used to support an argument.
Here is the list:

LIBERAL SITES:
Democratic underground
ACLU
Moveon.org
Mediamatters
CNN
NY Times
LA Times
any San Francisco newspaper
Ed Shultz


CONSERVATIVE SITES:
Newsmax.com
Drudge
AnnCoulter.com





Can we agree to this?

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Old 07-13-2006, 08:10 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by ELOrocks17
From now on lets agree that links from the following websites are NOT considered reliable and therfore cannot be used to support an argument.
Here is the list:

LIBERAL SITES:
Democratic underground
ACLU
Moveon.org
Mediamatters
CNN
NY Times
LA Times
any San Francisco newspaper
Ed Shultz


CONSERVATIVE SITES:
Newsmax.com
Drudge
AnnCoulter.com





Can we agree to this?
I'll leave it to someone else to question the fairness of you listing three conservative sites and 9 liberal sites (one of which is "any San Fransisco newspaper"), I'll just point out that these sites may or may not be 100% reliable, depending on what you're researching. If you want to see if the ACLU files a suit against somebody, a press release announcing the litigation on their site is close to primary evidence. The crazy thing is people treating any editorials & opinions as news, whether they come from Ann Coulter, the New York Times, or somebody's crazy uncle.
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Originally Posted by ELOrocks17
From now on lets agree that links from the following websites are NOT considered reliable and therfore cannot be used to support an argument.
Here is the list:

LIBERAL SITES:
Democratic underground
ACLU
Moveon.org
Mediamatters
CNN
NY Times
LA Times
any San Francisco newspaper
Ed Shultz


CONSERVATIVE SITES:
Newsmax.com
Drudge
AnnCoulter.com





Can we agree to this?
Have you disproved the rumsfeld photo yet, do a search and post the facts.
Until then that the only one who is biased is one who doesn't research the issue to make sure it's legit or not legit.
And that list should include the whitehouse press release to every media outlet on the planet.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:16 PM   #4
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I'll leave it to someone else to question the fairness of you listing three conservative sites and 9 liberal sites (one of which is "any San Fransisco newspaper"), I'll just point out that these sites may or may not be 100% reliable, depending on what you're researching. If you want to see if the ACLU files a suit against somebody, a press release announcing the litigation on their site is close to primary evidence. The crazy thing is people treating any editorials & opinions as news, whether they come from Ann Coulter, the New York Times, or somebody's crazy uncle.
I think you could add The Wall Street Journal and I don't know how about
Readers Digest?
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:21 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by ELOrocks17
From now on lets agree that links from the following websites are NOT considered reliable and therfore cannot be used to support an argument.
Here is the list:

LIBERAL SITES:
Democratic underground
ACLU
Moveon.org
Mediamatters
CNN
NY Times
LA Times
any San Francisco newspaper
Ed Shultz


CONSERVATIVE SITES:
Newsmax.com
Drudge
AnnCoulter.com





Can we agree to this?
Hate to say this, but seems you begged the right wing side, how about adding:

Rush Limbaugh
Bill O'Reilly
Savage
Hannity

I am not sure I agree with this rule, need to sleep on it though.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:28 PM   #6
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Even the political sites sometimes have accurate information.

Other times...they give you ideas for finding the correct information.

Lastly...they give you an opposite point of view that can help make you look furthur.
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:26 PM   #7
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Even the political sites sometimes have accurate information.

Other times...they give you ideas for finding the correct information.

Lastly...they give you an opposite point of view that can help make you look furthur.
The only problem is, NEM uses all those liberal sites for links and no one calls him on it, yet when i post something from Newsmax..everyone complains that its biased. What gives?
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The only problem is, NEM uses all those liberal sites for links and no one calls him on it, yet when i post something from Newsmax..everyone complains that its biased. What gives?

Sometimes people call Blue Collar for the mediamatters links. The left may be more sensitive to opposing POV's.
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What you cant seem to grasp, is that mediamatters backs everything up that they print, with dates, with videos, with transcripts, with the actual quotes, dates, times, places and who...

That is called THE TRUTH, something you are not familiar with.
Bull*****, if they don't like a person's opinion they trash them, thats it!

They also use other left wing sites as reference, what a joke.

It is also run by a compulsive liar.
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What you cant seem to grasp, is that mediamatters backs everything up that they print, with dates, with videos, with transcripts, with the actual quotes, dates, times, places and who...

That is called THE TRUTH, something you are not familiar with.
Many of the clip I have vbiewed were taken out of context and deceptive.. Whne I gone to other sites to get complete transcripts it made the media matters stuff look like a political ad. Coming from the people who involved this isn't unexpected.
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