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View Poll Results: Is marriage a constitutional right?
Marriage is not a right. The SCt decision allowing interracial marriage was wrong for this reason. 0 0%
Het. marriage is a right, gay marriage isn't. Interracial ruling ok but not applicable here. 1 12.50%
Both types of marriage are civil rights and should be enforced by the courts. 7 87.50%
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Old 07-12-2006, 02:22 PM   #1
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Default Where is the line on marriage being a right?

The issue has gotten muddled... I'm curious where you all see the line.
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Old 07-12-2006, 02:25 PM   #2
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Right here, Pujo:

The first section of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
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Old 07-12-2006, 02:27 PM   #3
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Right here, Pujo:

The first section of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Sorry, I think you answered before I had a chance to put the poll up - I didn't mean for it to be an open-ended question.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:37 AM   #4
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We've had lots of comments in other threads, but I'd figure all the pro "traditional marriage" crowd would want to make their opinions clear for once.
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Right here, Pujo:

The first section of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
That still doesn't answer why marriage should be limited to two consenting, non married adults.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:56 AM   #6
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That still doesn't answer why marriage should be limited to two consenting, non married adults.
The consenting part is clear - you can't have a contract without the consent of all parties.

The adults part is clear - children can't consent or enter into a contractual relationship.

The two part is stupid, the government shouldn't care how many wives or husbands someone has. Polygamy's not an arrangement that would work for me, but there's no reason to impose monogamy on everyone. Actually, the government should just get out of the business of recognizing marriage at all, which would avoid all these sticky situations.
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The consenting part is clear - you can't have a contract without the consent of all parties.

The adults part is clear - children can't consent or enter into a contractual relationship.

The two part is stupid, the government shouldn't care how many wives or husbands someone has. Polygamy's not an arrangement that would work for me, but there's no reason to impose monogamy on everyone. Actually, the government should just get out of the business of recognizing marriage at all, which would avoid all these sticky situations.
As most have probably figured out, I'm really just being stupid to make a point that marriage "discriminates" against a lot of options other than gays. But I agree on polygamy - and why any man would want two wives is beyond me
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As most have probably figured out, I'm really just being stupid to make a point that marriage "discriminates" against a lot of options other than gays. But I agree on polygamy - and why any man would want two wives is beyond me
That's great, but how come you don't want to vote?
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That's great, but how come you don't want to vote?
You made each choice so specific I didn't really like any of them I'll vote for the one I like the best, but I may not really agree with it entirely.
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You made each choice so specific I didn't really like any of them I'll vote for the one I like the best, but I may not really agree with it entirely.
You voted for the trick choice... I don't know how someone could claim that heterosexual marriage is a constitutional right while gay marriage isn't. You can say whatever you want about them not being morally equivilant, but the language of the constitution certainly doesn't make a distinction (on account of not mentioning the word marriage at all).
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