US admits it used napalm bombs in Iraq? - New England Patriots Forums

***IcyPatriot*** · 07-11-2006, 08:46 PM

EDIT: Put a (?) in there on edit..don't want the Black Suits carrying me away! Should have put it in there but i copied the title...Bad FBN...Bad Boy.

Interesting and horrendous story. First i ever heard of this and the story is like 3 years old. I am not one to question our soldiers in any way. But...this story does make you wonder what the leadership was thinking...I am rolling into Baghdad we were already light years ahead of the resistance.

Anyways: http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/ne...alm-iraq01.htm

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American pilots dropped the controversial incendiary agent napalm on Iraqi troops during the advance on Baghdad. The attacks caused massive fireballs that obliterated several Iraqi positions.

The Pentagon denied using napalm at the time, but Marine pilots and their commanders have confirmed that they used an upgraded version of the weapon against dug-in positions. They said napalm, which has a distinctive smell, was used because of its psychological effect on an enemy.

A 1980 UN convention banned the use against civilian targets of napalm, a terrifying mixture of jet fuel and polystyrene that sticks to skin as it burns. The US, which did not sign the treaty, is one of the few countries that makes use of the weapon. It was employed notoriously against both civilian and military targets in the Vietnam war.

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"We napalmed both those [bridge] approaches," said Colonel James Alles, commander of Marine Air Group 11. "Unfortunately there were people there ... you could see them in the [****pit] video. They were Iraqi soldiers. It's no great way to die. The generals love napalm. It has a big psychological effect."

A reporter from the Sydney Morning Herald who witnessed another napalm attack on 21 March on an Iraqi observation post at Safwan Hill, close to the Kuwaiti border, wrote the following day: "Safwan Hill went up in a huge fireball and the observation post was obliterated. 'I pity anyone who is in there,' a Marine sergeant said. 'We told them to surrender.'"

At the time, the Pentagon insisted the report was untrue. "We completed destruction of our last batch of napalm on 4 April, 2001," it said.

The revelation that napalm was used in the war against Iraq, while the Pentagon denied it, has outraged opponents of the war.

Here's another:
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/June05/Whitney0627.htm
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Apr05/Sanders0414.htm
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Mar05/MediaLens0330.htm
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Nov2004/Jamail1129.htm

and Willy Pete - Entire Page Of Links:
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Nov05/Napalm-Iraq.htm

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http://chris-floyd.com/fallujah/

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***BelichickFan*** · 07-11-2006, 08:53 PM

What's horrendous about using it against the opposing army/fighters ?

PatsFanInMaine · 07-11-2006, 08:56 PM

If it's effective at killing the enemy I have no problem with it. I don't see where the problem is here.

***QuiGon*** · 07-11-2006, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by F.B.N.

Interesting and horrendous story. First i ever heard of this and the story is like 3 years old. I am not one to question our soldiers in any way. But...this story does make you wonder what the leadership was thinking...

Maybe they were thinking they were fighting a war..?

***IcyPatriot*** · 07-11-2006, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NEM

The article is dated from August of 2003. Why are you bringing it up now?

Just found out...like I said.

***BelichickFan*** · 07-11-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by QuiGon

Maybe they were thinking they were fighting a war..?

And they wanted to kill their opponent

:shock:

***patsfan13*** · 07-11-2006, 09:11 PM

There is no really humane way to kill soldiers in a war. apparently is isn't illegal to use napalm on soldiers. What is the issue here?

***IcyPatriot*** · 07-11-2006, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanInMaine

If it's effective at killing the enemy I have no problem with it. I don't see where the problem is here.

The problem is that they used it in the city itself indiscriminantly...call me naive...but I thought we only bombed enemy positions at that time when going in.

***BelichickFan*** · 07-11-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by F.B.N.

The problem is that they used it in the city itself indiscriminantly...call me naive...but I thought we only bombed enemy positions at that time when going in.

"Unfortunately there were people there ... They were Iraqi soldiers"

***IcyPatriot*** · 07-11-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13

There is no really humane way to kill soldiers in a war. apparently is isn't illegal to use napalm on soldiers. What is the issue here?

The issue is that they used in to destroy about 2/3 of the city indiscriminantly killing @ 2000 to 6000 civilians...if true...that's quite harsh. I thought we learned that lesson when we used it on villages in Vietnam?