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Old 07-06-2006, 08:26 PM   #1
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From Iraqi Bloggers Central...an interesting article with the intent of letting soldiers voice
some opinion. It has many different opinions...I just post it because it is an intersting read
not to prove right or wrong the validity of the war...We just don't get enough of this
from the mainstream media who choose to cherrypick the ones with the answers they seek.

Also, it has the links where they blog. I read alot of these to get the real news
concerning the war...the soldiers are the best source of info...too bad the media
doesn't use their real opinions more often. Honest posts lead to honest opinions IMO.

http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/...s-iraq_04.html

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I'm 1st Lieutenant Lee Kelley, and I was in Ramadi for a year.

To answer your question:

In the end, do you feel that Iraq was worth your time and effort? And could you tell us why?

I do think Iraq was worth my time, for a lot of reasons. To put it simply, any way I can take part in the fight of my generatiuon, this global conflict against terrorists which is currently most predominant in thge Middle East, I am happy to help.
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Name witheld...In a way I do but for the most part I think that it was stupid.... this is my own opinion and as no reflect on the military at all.... I lost one of my best friends on April 22 2005 outside of Tal Afar and I was in the truck with him when it happened... so I do think that it was a waste look at all the families and soldiers that have lost loved ones over something that the government cant even prove
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Iraq wasn't worth my time nor my effort because my talents were not used and I didn't even perform the job the Army trained me to do. I was called back from the IRR and extended beyond my terminal ETS date to do something that anybody with any MOS could have done. I don't feel I was used to help in any significant way. It bothers me because I know I could have done more.
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I was a strong supporter of our efforts against Saddam Hussein specifically as a supporter of terror against the US, and in his defiance in the face of repeated injunctions by the UN Security Council. I knew he had weapons of mass destruction, and a proven willingness to use them against ethnic minorities and opponents. I never expected to be part of that effort in the National Guard, but I was proud to be called upon to serve in this way.

I think of my time in Iraq as service. I served my country, which I believe is the responsibility of all of our citizens. I also performed a service for the Iraqi people. This service involved sacrifices, on the part of me and my fellow soldiers, but also from our families, friends, and communities. It also has involved great sacrifice and expense from the Iraqi people themselves.
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Do I think Iraq was/is worth it? Pardon my use of the language, but, FU CK NO. These kids are forced to say that SH IT when a camera is stuffed in their face, or when the media is speaking to some FOBBIT who never once left the damn compound. I was a DUSTOFF pilot who threw a 16 ½ year career away because of my beliefs. I officially left the military this month. So that should tell you how strong my conviction to this question is.

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Mark Miner:There is no doubt in my mind that the Iraqi people appreciate what we have done for them. The people I talked to and encountered on the streets of Baghdad were fearful of us leaving prematurely.

Iraq when I left was a different country than when I arrived. The Iraqi Army had made substantial improvements... both in numbers and performance.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:52 AM   #2
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Well I talked to a marine officer yesterday, no camera's around, and he didn't have to worry about anyone else hearing him. We were in the middle of a quiet golf coarse.

He just got back form Iraq a few months ago and want to go back. He thought it was worth it.
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I think the opinions will be mixed..no question...but I think the answer has to come from the people in the US..what they think.
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Ask the enlisted men, not the officers... Officers, for the most part, wont say anything negative because their future, in the military would be on the line.

They have been so brainwashed by Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc...that in an, alleged, time of war, military officers will rarely, if ever, say anything negative.....and will back the President no matter what..... that is what they believe they are required to do......

However, as we have seen, once they have retired, many will speak out, INCLUDING GENERAL OFFICERS, as has been the case in this situation....

And, did you ask him WHY he believes it is WORTH IT? Did you ask him if we are defending our constitution, which is what he swore an oath to do? Did you ask him if the Iraqi people pose a threat to the security of the United States, which is the only legitimate reason for our troops to invade a foreign nation? Did you ask him if he voted Republican?

I wonder what his answers would have been, dont you?
Please see my reply on another thread that you posted the same rant.

Some day you may learn how to discuss things with people. I thought that having an open mind what one of the traits that you liberals cherished.
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I think liberals look like right wing fanatics to NEM.;0
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