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We should just have a vote on it instead of an ammendment because it would be guaranteed to fail. Marriage isn't a right, it's a priviledge and freaky lifestyles (whether gay or with kids or polygamous or whatever) don't get that priviledge. Too bad.
The liberals don't want a referendum on this issue because they know they'll lose. They would rather have 2 justices of the state supreme court impose their beliefs on the rest of us.
Pretty sad when you have to take a document written about 200 years ago and "interpret" it to mean that gays are allowed to marry... Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what John and Sam Adams had in mind when they put pen to paper...
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Why should there be a vote??? Name one vote that was taken that had to do with civil rights, school desegregation, freeing the slaves??? Guess I missed that one..the Governor who was talking all about the vote and how THAT was democracy must have skipped many history classes.
I can understand the logic behind not taking a state wide referendum on this issue (the left is terrified of a state wide referendum because they know they'll lose).
But how did this law become law in the Commonwealth..? Did the democratically elected governor issue an executive order...? Did the legislature take up the issue and vote on it...? Did the people put it on a ballot to be decided by popular vote...? The answer to all of the above is no. Some ultra liberal judges took a 220 year old document and interpreted it in a way that everyone in the Commonwealth knows was never the intent of those who drafted it.
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Speak for yourself and no one else. Its none of your friggin business. Get the hell out of other people's bedrooms and take care of your own....friggin bigot.
Speak for yourself and no one else. Its none of your friggin business. Get the hell out of other people's bedrooms and take care of your own....friggin bigot.
Fine, SOM, let me marry multiple people then. This restriction on marriage isn't confined to gays. SOM.
They didnt have in mind the fact that an AWOL yellow bellied coward of a president would violate the US COnstitution and send men, and women, fof to die for a personal vendetta either. They would have had Bush executed by now.
LMFAO, SOM brings up the war again in a thread nothing to do with it.
They didnt have in mind the fact that an AWOL yellow bellied coward of a president would violate the US COnstitution and send men, and women, fof to die for a personal vendetta either. They would have had Bush executed by now.
Wow. That's a surprise and something we've never seen before. NEM takes an issue that has absolutely nothing to do with George Bush or the Iraq War, and mentions it anyway.
I dont agree with polygamy, i dont agree with gay lifestyle either, but its none of my damned business...if they want to do it, it is up to them and it is not for me to dictate....and BTW, Jesus said that every man makes his/her own decisions in life...and those decisions will determine their afterlife. (He didnt say it that way, but that was what he meant)
You need to learn a lot about life and get the hell out of OTHER people's busines...because you dont belong there.
You dont want to have 4 wives, or you dont want a gay marriage for yourself, thats fine, thats your business..but dont go tell others what the hell is right, or wrong. None of your friggin business.
That's where you're mistaken, my ignorant friend. Marriage is a public union. It is everyone's business. What two (or more) gay guys do in the privacy of their own bedrooms is none of my business and I don't give a damn about any of that. But marriage is a public union which effects us all.
you opened the door by menbtioning our founding fathers.
The discussion was about gay marriage in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I referenced the men who drafted the MA constitution, since that document was used as the basis by the ultra-liberal MA Supreme Court to legalize it.
That does not in any way, shape or form by even the most perverse and twisted logic "open the door" to a response about Bush or Iraq.
Democracy does not always work when the majority (be they white, straight, Christian, etc.) is asked to share their power. The issues over separation of church and state are an example of the majority trying to bully its way over the minority. Gay marriage, like so many similar issues, is being manufactured by right-wing special interest groups, and we must not allow civil rights to be manipulated in this manner. You might disagree with the MA Supreme Court ruling, but to do so would be to recognize the right of the state to deny equal rights to a perfectly legal union. I would no more support a vote on gay marriage than I would support a vote on inter-racial marriage.
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