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Old 06-27-2006, 05:29 AM   #1
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These tactics do NOT go over very big in Europe..and rendering the wrong person as has been done is basically criminal...and there are some that will have to pay for it.
How much Europe resists what the CIA wishes to do will be interesting...as is how much they will shed light on it. They could bury it all...sweep it under the rug, but W really doesn't have control here..and I fear there is much more embarrassing material that will come to light.
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Old 06-27-2006, 07:05 AM   #2
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These tactics do NOT go over very big in Europe..and rendering the wrong person as has been done is basically criminal...and there are some that will have to pay for it.
How much Europe resists what the CIA wishes to do will be interesting...as is how much they will shed light on it. They could bury it all...sweep it under the rug, but W really doesn't have control here..and I fear there is much more embarrassing material that will come to light.

So you are in Europe, if so that explains a lot.
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AS usual, just like the guy in the video that I posted in another thread...YOU DONT HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO ANSWER THE TOPIC, OR DEBATE IT...AS USUAL, YOU ATTACK THE MESSENGER.

You always prove our point, thanks.
And exactly what did you add to the topic?

Neither Pats726 or that fat bastard on your video have said anything. Al they have suggested is that they have a give up mentality just like you.
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Old 06-27-2006, 07:27 AM   #4
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These tactics do NOT go over very big in Europe..and rendering the wrong person as has been done is basically criminal...and there are some that will have to pay for it.
How much Europe resists what the CIA wishes to do will be interesting...as is how much they will shed light on it. They could bury it all...sweep it under the rug, but W really doesn't have control here..and I fear there is much more embarrassing material that will come to light.

I was in Europe in the 60's they didn't like us then( Viet Nam), in the 80's they hated Reagan for being a 'cowboy' thaought he was naive and so forth, of course he was right and the oh so sophisticated Euro were wrong, and so it goes.

I would point out that European birth rates are plummeting, demographicaly traditional Europe is dying. It looks as if there will be a muslim majority in the next 50 years.
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I was in Europe in the 60's they didn't like us then( Viet Nam), in the 80's they hated Reagan for being a 'cowboy' thaought he was naive and so forth, of course he was right and the oh so sophisticated Euro were wrong, and so it goes.

I would point out that European birth rates are plummeting, demographicaly traditional Europe is dying. It looks as if there will be a muslim majority in the next 50 years.
Actually the non-white population is growing larger...so race will be a big issue...but again..points are missed and ot responded to...which says more than anything...
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Actually the non-white population is growing larger...so race will be a big issue...but again..points are missed and ot responded to...which says more than anything...

The point I will address is: US foreign policy should be directed at protecting the US not at making Europeans (who are trying to appease their restless Muslim minorities) approve of us.

In short I DON"T CARE WHAT THE EURO's think.
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Neither Pats726 or that fat bastard on your video have said anything. Al they have suggested is that they have a give up mentality just like you.
Could you explain to me the penchant for making fun of a person's body size in many right wing arguments?? I used to listen to Rush once and a while and could never understand how that draft dodger could say things like "baby fat Landreaux" or talk about Clinton's eating habits. I suspect it is an effort to change the topic or direction of this discourse.

This is a serious question, why the tendency to belittle a person because of their body size??
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Could you explain to me the penchant for making fun of a person's body size in many right wing arguments?? I used to listen to Rush once and a while and could never understand how that draft dodger could say things like "baby fat Landreaux" or talk about Clinton's eating habits. I suspect it is an effort to change the topic or direction of this discourse.

This is a serious question, why the tendency to belittle a person because of their body size??

HMMM... Well if you want to review comments made about Coulter's looks and about Limbaugh over the years, that knife cuts both ways. The left is as nasty as the right in that sense.
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The point I will address is: US foreign policy should be directed at protecting the US not at making Europeans (who are trying to appease their restless Muslim minorities) approve of us.

In short I DON"T CARE WHAT THE EURO's think.
Basically..you don't Care what the world thinks....and that is fine..I think that says it all...
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Basically..you don't Care what the world thinks....and that is fine..I think that says it all...
By Jove you've got it!

The job of American foreign policy is to advance US interest not curry favor with 'the world' whihc is a mismash of interest that sometimes coincides and sometimes conflict with ours ( depending on time and issue).
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