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Old 05-07-2006, 10:07 AM   #1
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060507/..._pe/cia_future

A leading Republican came out against the front-runner for CIA director, Gen. Michael Hayden.... Members of the Senate committee that would consider
President Bush's nominee also expressed reservations, saying the CIA is a civilian agency and putting Hayden atop it would concentrate too much power in the military for intelligence matters.

Bush was expected to nominate a new director as early as Monday to replace Porter Goss, who abruptly resigned on Friday.

But opposition to Hayden because of his military background is mounting on Capitol Hill, where he would face tough hearings in the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Despite a distinguished career at the Defense Department, Hayden would be "the wrong person, the wrong place at the wrong time," said the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Peter Hoekstra (news, bio, voting record), R-Mich.

"There is ongoing tensions between this premier civilian intelligence agency and DOD as we speak," Hoekstra said. "And I think putting a general in charge — regardless of how good Mike is — ... is going to send the wrong signal through the agency here in Washington but also to our agents in the field around the world," he told "Fox News Sunday."

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Old 05-07-2006, 10:46 AM   #2
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060507/..._pe/cia_future

A leading Republican came out against the front-runner for CIA director, Gen. Michael Hayden.... Members of the Senate committee that would consider
President Bush's nominee also expressed reservations, saying the CIA is a civilian agency and putting Hayden atop it would concentrate too much power in the military for intelligence matters.

Bush was expected to nominate a new director as early as Monday to replace Porter Goss, who abruptly resigned on Friday.

But opposition to Hayden because of his military background is mounting on Capitol Hill, where he would face tough hearings in the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Despite a distinguished career at the Defense Department, Hayden would be "the wrong person, the wrong place at the wrong time," said the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Peter Hoekstra (news, bio, voting record), R-Mich.

"There is ongoing tensions between this premier civilian intelligence agency and DOD as we speak," Hoekstra said. "And I think putting a general in charge — regardless of how good Mike is — ... is going to send the wrong signal through the agency here in Washington but also to our agents in the field around the world," he told "Fox News Sunday."

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The Democrats would like to see "Oprah Winfrey" appointed.
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We did so bad with:

Generals Washington, Grant, Eisenhower.

Oh wait forgot one: Jimmy Carter was a Annapolis grad, may he should have never been allowed to become President.

Aren't these the same people who backed whathisface, in the last election? You know the Clinton tool? I forget his name, but his and John Kerry's campaign emails were alll over this child molestors computer I was going through last week.

The problem with both the CIA and the State Deptarment is that they are lined with liberal washington cronies who cry whenever they think that a new boss, might actually make them work, and work towards the countries benefit and not that of the DNC.
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The Democrats have become so bitter and so against Bush that they no longer know what they want. They just know what they DONT want and thats anything Bush or the GOP (or the people for that matter) DO want.
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I would have no problem appointing a general: Eisenhower, Grant, Washington, or one like minded. The problem is, Bush would never appoint a person with those qualities. He has continuously made poor choices in selecting candidates. When he does appoint someone of value, he ends up firing them (Paul O'Neil). Child molestation? I thought I was reading a post by Harry.
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I would have no problem appointing a general: Eisenhower, Grant, Washington, or one like minded. The problem is, Bush would never appoint a person with those qualities. He has continuously made poor choices in selecting candidates. When he does appoint someone of value, he ends up firing them (Paul O'Neil). Child molestation? I thought I was reading a post by Harry.
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We did so bad with:

Generals Washington, Grant, Eisenhower.

Oh wait forgot one: Jimmy Carter was a Annapolis grad, may he should have never been allowed to become President.

Aren't these the same people who backed whathisface, in the last election? You know the Clinton tool? I forget his name, but his and John Kerry's campaign emails were alll over this child molestors computer I was going through last week.

The problem with both the CIA and the State Deptarment is that they are lined with liberal washington cronies who cry whenever they think that a new boss, might actually make them work, and work towards the countries benefit and not that of the DNC.
I'll give you Washington, of course, but he would be against the military control of civilian government agencies for sure. Washington knew that the military was for defending the United states and would have the chimp tried for treason, IMO.
Grant, after the hell of the Civil War, was a nearly complete failure of a human being after the war and an inept president at best.
Ike would have vehemently opposed to such a strong military control of the CIA. His suspicious view of the military after WWII was prophetic and, as we now know, warranted.
None of these men were in the military when they took office, and none should be mentioned in the same breath as this retarded traitor we now have in the White House. The chimp has consistently made terrible appointments and has consistently shown that he can't be trusted to pick his nose, never mind the director of the CIA.
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If you look into the OSS(CIA's predecessor) you'll find that it was blown up after WW2 because it wasn't independant enough (from the military)

I don't know enough about this particular guy to say, but CIA/OSS independance from the military itself has been a bone of contention for at least the past 60 years.
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The fat Gov't employees at the CIA may benefit from a little military style accountability. They haven't been doing a good job for awhile.

Let's look at the track record:

Pakistani Nuke Progarm; Discovered during Nuclear bomb test

Indian Nuke Program: Discovered during Nuclear bomb test

Libyan Program: Discovered when Ghaddafi voluntarily turned it over.

North Korean Program: Funded by US, CIA knew about yet the funding kept flowing.

Iraqi Program: "A Slam Dunk"

Iranian program: Jame Risen's book cites that the CIA game them the plans.


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Liberals would like to do away with the CIA altogether and the FBI, Liberals live in "Goo-Goo" land, they think murderers, rapists and "Child Killers" should all be counsled and then sent to Disney Land to be rehabilitated and slobbered over while they plan their next murder.

We have a new problem that is quietly growing in America it is called "MS 13" it is an organized "GANG" of mostly Salvadorian Slime Scum Bag Murderers, when they they really get out of hand and start to affect the law abiding people of America I wonder how the Loopey Looney Liberals will want to handle it?
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