PatsWickedPissah

Interesting poll because it segments by gender, ethnicity, religion and location.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/2006poll.html

Bottom line is that most Americans, aside from 'progressives' the new name for socialists, are not happy with the current immigration policies and mostly favor the House bill which starts with enforcement as opposed to the Senate (Kennedy & McCain) approach of amnesty, even by another name.

What I find interesting is that the pols in Washington are by and large NOT representing their constituencies views on this issue. What other factor is motivating them? Especially Rs. Is the cheap labor business lobby THAT strong?

gomezcat

Funnily enough, the poll doesn't have a section for Native Americans and their views. Send those Brit b**tards to where they belong, I say. On second thoughts, perhaps not. Miss Gomezcat seconds that!

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Pujo

I'm thinking it would be harder for Zogby to find Native Americans to poll.

phantom73

I'm not a fan of immigration by any means, but at one point in time, didn't most americans favor slavery?

Harry Boy

Most of the world favored it, they all did it at one time or another. Their own people are the ones that captured and sold them to the slave traders.

Aren't there parts of Africa today that slavery is still practiced, especially with young girls, don't some Asian people still sell young children for sex purposes.

It wasn't just "Bad Old America"

We stopped doing slavery just as they stopped feeding people to the Lions.

PatsWickedPissah

Me, I'm a strong fan of immigration. Legal immigrants go thru a lot to become citizens. I've known and/or worked with many value add immigrants from Brazil, Russia, Chiner, Indier, Pakistan, Syria and elsewhere. It's unchecked ILLEGAL immigrants that present a problem.

BelichickFan

If Liberals were truely Progressive they wouldn't support dinosaur programs like Social Security. Talk about being stuck decades and decades ago.

PatsWickedPissah

Good observation. Patters et.al. are stuck forever in a 1930s union and FDR big govt program mentality. Calling such 'thinking' progressive is an oxymoron.

Rene Vallieres

To understand patters you should frequent the web sites and blogs that seem to form the universe of his/her knowledge. (For the moment, let's just assume he's a he). I discovered today that one site patters likes (and quotes) is The Century Foundation. Very far left with no room for an opposing view (unless it's put there to be ridiculed). To be fair, there are just as many far right sites with the same type of obvious agenda, and since he is a socialist it's ok, he can live there. However, like most liberals, he doesn't do much independent (thinking) research on his own. Many liberals and conservatives alike repeat what they read, and if it sounds good to them, they assume it to be the unbiased truth. Since patters pretends to know me, let me extrapolate a little about him from his posts. My guess is, if you get into a conversation/debate and patters thinks your views are ridiculous, he may say something like "...that's ridiculous...how come absolutely no one I know feels anything like that??". Of course, there-in lies the problem. People on the far right or left tend to surround themselves with others who feel exactly the same way they do. (Misery loves company?) This is not a good thing. At one point, I was debating an issue about T-bills with him, which was not political, but dealt with simple mathematics. And, when his argument culminated with the identification of his source, a liberal sociology professor, it became pointless. He's a guy who likes to read a lot of what others have to say, scratch the surface of many issues, and leave the thinking and reasoning to others who have the time. It's the old credo and first rule of bartenders around the world: " IF IT LOOKS GOOD, IT TASTES GOOD".

PatsWickedPissah

Patters is a he. But you nailed it. He's used to the monolithic 'progressivism' of his fellow effete Canterbrigians. At least he exposes himself on this Forum but on 2nd thought, most posters and topics here are virulently anti-Bush so he feels at home here too.

Disclosure: I confess I was born at Cambridge City Hospital, but left town immediately thereafter