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PatriotsReign · 07-15-2010, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Leave No Doubt

Exactly, it's all the same.

That said I do think there's an attempt to demean the Tea Party ( God forbid a third party actually emerge and attempt to gain some sort of strength, after all we're all so delighted with the 2 party system aren't we

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I think one issue that we don't discuss is that most on the left never want to see a political group emerge that is predominently caucasion. Of course, there is nothing wrong with that since they didn't organize for that reason or make that their goal. It just so happens that independents & conservatives are predominently white.

It just seems to me that the left and especially the far-left only want to see "Rainbow/Kumbaya" political groups.

Go figure...

***DarrylS*** · 07-15-2010, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

I think one issue that we don't discuss is that most on the left never want to see a political group emerge that is predominently caucasion. Of course, there is nothing wrong with that since they didn't organize for that reason or make that their goal. It just so happens that independents & conservatives are predominently white.

It just seems to me that the left and especially the far-left only want to see "Rainbow/Kumbaya" political groups.

Go figure...

Duh, the country is Rainbow.. look around it is amazing

PatsFanInVa · 07-15-2010, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

Here is your first clue, neither the Democrats or Republicans want a third party, they are satisfied with the current two party system.. any change would undermine their stranglehold on american politics.. they control vast wealth and power..

To try to bring together extremists is not a good answer, bringing together the vast majority in the middle is a better idea... the issue with the Tea Party is that there is no centralization of power, so it seems every day that there is a new episode of extremist behavior and no way to modulate that behavior.

You guys all decide on this question. What KIND of third party do you want?

I keep hearing Coke and Pepsi, Coke and Pepsi, Coke and Pepsi. So you want a third party to be something in the middle between Coke and Pepsi? What the hell for?

I love seeing the local pundits proclaim "Coke and Pepsi" one day and decry partisanism and gridlock the next. You can't be so far apart nothing gets done if you're identical.

Me, I don't mind a rightist third party to fragment the Republican vote. In fact, with the state of the country, I was wondering how the GOP was going to avoid re-taking the House, but it looks like they've found a way.

Still, the overlap between the tea parties and the Republican base is near total. The overlap between Republicans and Democrats is far less.

So how the hell does this represent any sort of alternative?

***DarrylS*** · 07-15-2010, 07:07 AM

Personally would like a party that espouses peaceful conflict(we have had enough wars), downsizing our military, closing half of our overseas bases, controlling the defense contractor merry go round, minimizing gov't intervention in education, developing a systemic and equitable response to illegal immigration, educated drilling/oil exploration and development of alternative energy sources, a party that believes that a woman has a right to choose, a party that is very diverse and reflects the population, getting rid of the scum lobbyists.. on and on. Imagine?????

PatriotsReign · 07-15-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

Duh, the country is Rainbow.. look around it is amazing

You missed my point....

Which is that if a party organizes that ends up being mostly one demographic

IT IS OK

Hope that's clear enough.

So if the Tea Party is 97% caucasion because they want less taxes & less spending, there is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with that. This point really can't be argued....unless you'd care to try.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 07-15-2010, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

It just seems to me that the left and especially the far-left only want to see "Rainbow/Kumbaya" political groups.

Does that not infer that those who are on the right, espically those on the far-right do NOT want to see Rainbow/Kumbaya political groups but instead, prefer, only a solid all-white, non-colorful, non-harmonic political group?

PatriotsReign · 07-15-2010, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanInVa

You guys all decide on this question. What KIND of third party do you want?

I keep hearing Coke and Pepsi, Coke and Pepsi, Coke and Pepsi. So you want a third party to be something in the middle between Coke and Pepsi? What the hell for?

I love seeing the local pundits proclaim "Coke and Pepsi" one day and decry partisanism and gridlock the next. You can't be so far apart nothing gets done if you're identical.

Me, I don't mind a rightist third party to fragment the Republican vote. In fact, with the state of the country, I was wondering how the GOP was going to avoid re-taking the House, but it looks like they've found a way.

Still, the overlap between the tea parties and the Republican base is near total. The overlap between Republicans and Democrats is far less.

So how the hell does this represent any sort of alternative?

You're right...it really doesn't and that is the challenge facing the republican party moving toward 2012. My guess is that the TP will end up aligning with the republicans, but will demand their agenda be included.

Right now, it appears they have the voice to accomplish that.

PatriotsReign · 07-15-2010, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Does that not infer that those who are on the right, espically those on the far-right do NOT want to see Rainbow/Kumbaya political groups but instead, prefer, only a solid all-white, non-colorful, non-harmonic political group?

NOw that's a naive comment to make, isn't it?

Race has nothing to do with political parties MrsP and I know you already understand that.

Political parties and/or groups develop their platform based upon they're views and values. Now of course it's smart to attract the largest base possible and that would include any race that shares their views.

Personally, if I started a my own political group, the idea of attracting particar races would be totally irrelevant. Either people agree with me or they don't.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 07-15-2010, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

Race has nothing to do with political parties MrsP and I know you already understand that.

Political parties and/or groups develop their platform based upon they're views and values. Now of course it's smart to attract the largest base possible and that would include any race that shares their views.

So which statement do you mean, PR? The one above or the one below?

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

I think one issue that we don't discuss is that most on the left never want to see a political group emerge that is predominently caucasion.

It just seems to me that the left and especially the far-left only want to see "Rainbow/Kumbaya" political groups.

***Harry Boy*** · 07-15-2010, 08:22 AM

The Tea Party won't split the The Republican Party the tea party will become the Republican Party , this Clown Obama and all of those Grinning bastards in congress are responsible for the Overnight Growth of The Tea Party, America as it goes now under President Jug Ears is being destroyed.

It it wern't for Obama, Pelosi, Reid and their gang of grinning lap dogs there would be no Tea Party.

DON'T LET THOSE RACIST LYING BASTARDS DESTROY AMERICA
GO TO THE POLLS AND FIGHT BACK.