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Old 04-25-2006, 03:43 AM   #1
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In Illinois they have begun impeachment proceedings in their legislature, apparently there is little known and never utilized rule of the US House of Reps, section of Jefferson's Manual of the rules of the House of Reps, which allows federal impeachment proceedings to be initiated by joint resolution of a state legislature..California is doing the same thing..this is an interesting strategy.

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The Illinois General Assembly is about to rock the nation. Members of state legislatures are normally not considered as having the ability to decide issues with a massive impact to the nation as a whole. Representative Karen A. Yarbrough of Illinois' 7th District is about to shatter that perception forever. Representative Yarbrough stumbled on a little known and never utlitized rule of the US House of Representatives, Section 603 of Jefferson's Manual of the Rules of the United States House of Representatives, which allows federal impeachment proceedings to be initiated by joint resolution of a state legislature. From there, Illinois House Joint Resolution 125 (hereafter to be referred to as HJR0125) was born.

Detailing five specific charges against President Bush including one that is specified to be a felony, the complete text of HJR0125 is copied below at the end of this article. One of the interesting points is that one of the items, the one specified as a felony, that the NSA was directed by the President to spy on American citizens without warrant, is not in dispute. That fact should prove an interesting dilemma for a Republican controlled US House that clearly is not only loathe to initiate impeachment proceedings, but does not even want to thoroughly investigate any of the five items brought up by the Illinois Assembly as high crimes and/or misdemeanors. Should HJR0125 be passed by the Illinois General Assembly, the US House will be forced by House Rules to take up the issue of impeachment as a privileged bill, meaning it will take precedence over other House business.
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Old 04-25-2006, 05:52 AM   #2
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"California Assemblyman Paul Koretz of Los Angeles (where the LA Times has now called for Cheney's resignation) has submitted amendments to Assembly Joint Resolution No. 39, calling for the impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney. The amendments reference Section 603 of Jefferson's Manual of the Rules of the United States House of Representatives, which allows federal impeachment proceedings to be initiated by joint resolution of a state legislature."

"The resolution, in the words of Koretz's press release, 'bases the call for impeachment upon the Bush Administration intentionally misleading the Congress and the American people regarding the threat from Iraq in order to justify an unnecessary war that has cost billions of dollars and thousands of lives and casualties; exceeding constitutional authority to wage war by invading Iraq; exceeding constitutional authority by Federalizing the National Guard; conspiring to torture prisoners in violation of the 'Federal Torture Act' and indicating intent to continue such actions; spying on American citizens in violation of the 1978 Foreign Agency Surveillance Act; leaking and covering up the leak of the identity of Valerie Plame Wilson, and holding American citizens without charge or trial.'"



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And that can be followed by Republican controlled state legislators going after the likes of Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy and Hillary. Won't the bloodbath be fun started by the uniters known as the Democrat party.

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Going after them for what? Dont be ridiuculous. You blind loyalty makes you look like the fooj that you are.

It was only a matter of time before Bush and the entire administration was taken down. And you, obviously, are in the 32% that will go down with him.
Ihope you are proud of the death and destruction that you, and others like you, are responsible for.
Win an election once and than start you garbage, just another liberal falacy until than.

Your polls don't mean crap until Novemeber. Willing to place a bet on the November elections if your so sure the donkeys will win? Doubt it, just a puss like your bud AAB.
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Impeachment, "in your dreams"
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And that can be followed by Republican controlled state legislators going after the likes of Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy and Hillary. Won't the bloodbath be fun started by the uniters known as the Democrat party.
Typical response from a blinded right winger, no response to the substance, just attack, attack, defend the leader...I am sure the Swift Boats Folks can dig up some faux pas the legislators have committed in the past and make a huge deal out of it. Over and over again, all folks like you do is react and lash out without ever responding to the substance, the fact here is that it is part of the rules established by Jefferson for the House.
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Typical response from a blinded right winger, no response to the substance, just attack, attack, defend the leader...I am sure the Swift Boats Folks can dig up some faux pas the legislators have committed in the past and make a huge deal out of it. Over and over again, all folks like you do is react and lash out without ever responding to the substance, the fact here is that it is part of the rules established by Jefferson for the House.
Hey liberal elitist, my opinion is there is no grounds for impeachment. So I was just pointing out that if you do this on no grounds what can of worms are you opening up on the other side?

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No ground for impeachment?? Dont be totally stupid.

In fact, there is grounds for far more than impeachment, including Levenworth. ALthough,. that will never happen.
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Hey liberal elitist, my opinion is there is no grounds for impeachment. So I was just pointing out that if you do this on no grounds what can of worms are you opening up on the other side?

Swift Boaters suck, Mutha rules ain't Mr. Kool Aid?
Liberal Elitist?? Been called lots of thing but elitist is about as far as you can get from my politics, your opinion is not what is at issue. The issue that there is a statute established by Jefferson that allows states to begin impeachment procedures. I has begun in Ill. and California. If that is being elite, I am proud to keep posting threads that have to do with people figuring out there is a way to change this autocracy or theocracy, not sure what it is.
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I have a question about clinton..... What was the driving force to impeach him, was it something dems did to the previous administration...Reason I ask was, someone mentioned about payback, for denying bork and the thomas hearings...Was is just being vindictive...
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