"Top-Kill" positive karma thread

[mcgraw_wv]

I do not understand how...

A) we can send a MANNED submarine down the mariana trench to the deepest a man has ever gone.

B) We send men and equipment in Space, which operates in a vacuum and pressures never imagined before

C) We landed on a Moon!

D) Harnessed the Power of an ATOM!!!


And we can't plug a whole 5000 feet down?

This tells me that our greatest scientists are not on the job, That this issue is not of top priority to our nation.

That is the only rationale. If we didn't after 10 days create a Manhattan style project of the countries brightest minds to say, we have an issue, how do we solve it...


As a libertarian, I am outraged that this private company is wreaking havoc on so many acres of private owned beach, and destroying an aspect of life which people relied on for their wages.

I also hate that we are stuck with using oil for energy and have to have 4000 Rigs in the Gulf of Mexico in the first place.

[Mrs.PatsFanInVa]

Originally Posted by 363839

Mrs.Patsfan, are you sure the Army Corp of Engineers is there?
It does not indicate this in your link.

They're there - they're just not doing much of anything.

Gulf oil spill: Should the U.S. Army Corps start dredging? | Greenspace | Los Angeles Times

[Mrs.PatsFanInVa]

Originally Posted by mcgraw_wv

As a libertarian, I am outraged that this private company is wreaking havoc on so many acres of private owned beach, and destroying an aspect of life which people relied on for their wages.

I'm confused. I thought Libertarians were all about private companies being protected from government interference.

In a way, seeing as how there has been a distinct lack of oversight, control, watchdogging and whatever of BP and every other damn oil company out there for decades now, one could pretty much say they've been treated very much in the manner that Libertarians promote for both businesses and individuals - with very little government oversight or interference.

I happen to agree with you - but I've never been a Libertarian and I've never called for smaller government and less interference.

It amazes me that you do not find your own outrage at least a touch hypocritical.

[Holy Diver]

CNN.com Live


I'm no expert, but this looks a heck of a lot worse than it was...

I count 5 different leaks now!

Unless the BP feed from before was just showing us one of the leaks, and knew of these other ones, or this "top kill" made $#!t worse....

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa

I'm confused. I thought Libertarians were all about private companies being protected from government interference.

In a way, seeing as how there has been a distinct lack of oversight, control, watchdogging and whatever of BP and every other damn oil company out there for decades now, one could pretty much say they've been treated very much in the manner that Libertarians promote for both businesses and individuals - with very little government oversight or interference.

I happen to agree with you - but I've never been a Libertarian and I've never called for smaller government and less interference.

It amazes me that you do not find your own outrage at least a touch hypocritical.

There is nothing in the Libertarian philosophy that advocates the federal government just sit there and do nothing while an oil spill ravages our southeast coastlines.

However, that certainly does seem to be the Obama philosophy. Oh wait, I think he's going to give another speech... that'll solve it!

[Holy Diver]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

There is nothing in the Libertarian philosophy that advocates the federal government just sit there and do nothing while an oil spill ravages our southeast coastlines.

However, that certainly does seem to be the Obama philosophy. Oh wait, I think he's going to give another speech... that'll solve it!

what should he do Wolf?

[apple strudel]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

There is nothing in the Libertarian philosophy that advocates the federal government just sit there and do nothing while an oil spill ravages our southeast coastlines.

But there is an awful lot in there that ensures that the federal government is too weak or crippled to do a damned thing about it. But keep dancing. It's so much fun to watch.

[blackglass3]

Dear God let this work.

And I agree...I don't know if it is supposed to look like this, but it sure as hell looks worse, not better.

[Mrs.PatsFanInVa]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

There is nothing in the Libertarian philosophy that advocates the federal government just sit there and do nothing while an oil spill ravages our southeast coastlines.

Really? Then why did one of the most currently famous Libertarians around chastise Obama for being "UnAmerican" enough for daring to criticize BP?

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by Holy Diver

what should he do Wolf?

I think both the Boston Globe and James Carville spelled out exactly what he should be doing. As I explained in another thread, I cannot embed video in here and I am not going to transcribe James Carville's comments but you can see them at ABCnews.com.

Where were all you "what can he do?" people when it came to FEMA '05? Many of you had join dates from before that summer... I can only imagine the comments from this forum's left leaning members if I did a search.