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Old 05-19-2010, 05:59 AM   #1
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Interesting that people here are touting primary victories - which really don't tell any story at all, and ignoring the only real race that took place.

This was the only race in the country yesterday where a Democrat faced off against a Republican and the results were clear.

In Pennsylvania, in spite of glowing endorsements for Republican candidate Tim Burns by Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Dana Perino, Mark Critz, the dreaded Democrat, won.

For all of their bluster about building a national wave this year, including RNC Chairman Michael Steele's guarantee of victory for Tim Burns, Republican policies were once again rejected when it came time to face the voters.

Can anyone say, "bellwether?"
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:08 AM   #2
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Interesting that people here are touting primary victories - which really don't tell any story at all, and ignoring the only real race that took place.

This was the only race in the country yesterday where a Democrat faced off against a Republican and the results were clear.

In Pennsylvania, in spite of glowing endorsements for Republican candidate Tim Burns by Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Dana Perino, Mark Critz, the dreaded Democrat, won.

For all of their bluster about building a national wave this year, including RNC Chairman Michael Steele's guarantee of victory for Tim Burns, Republican policies were once again rejected when it came time to face the voters.

Can anyone say, "bellwether?"
Not as stunning as it appears though I'm relying on the talking heads on MSNBC this morning. I haven't really followed that race. They pointed out that the Dem was an anti-Washington and anti Obama care candidate and in that white, blue collar area it made sence that he was the only kind of democrat that could win...........I hope I have my points straight because I have to run to work now. Maybe it was all spin? If i'm wrong I'll admit it
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Not suprising when you look at the driver for turnout in PA the Senate primary with Specter and Sestak. They should run Burns next Nov and we'll see what happens. As pointed out the dem ran as far away from Obama as he could.
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Our Golden Tongued Prince, Beautiful Barack, is he actually losing his Groupies, he sort of got his a$s kicked didn't he?

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This was Murtha's seat... I'd think an upset would be big like Kennedy but a Dem win isn't so much of a big win.
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Interesting that people here are touting primary victories - which really don't tell any story at all, and ignoring the only real race that took place.

This was the only race in the country yesterday where a Democrat faced off against a Republican and the results were clear.

In Pennsylvania, in spite of glowing endorsements for Republican candidate Tim Burns by Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Dana Perino, Mark Critz, the dreaded Democrat, won.

For all of their bluster about building a national wave this year, including RNC Chairman Michael Steele's guarantee of victory for Tim Burns, Republican policies were once again rejected when it came time to face the voters.

Can anyone say, "bellwether?"
Let me see if I understand you... a seat that was held by Murtha for over 30 years was passed to his aide in a special election where he got all the sympathy vote the Widow Murtha could provide. In a district that is 2-to-1 democrat, he won 53% to 45% while campaigning heavily on a pro-life, pro-gun platform.

And you want to see this as some sort of major victory for the left?

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And you want to see this as some sort of major victory for the left?
Would you see it as a victory for Tim Burns, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich and the rest of The Tea Party or Republicans, instead?

If they really had a statement to make, if they really had all the support of the "Real Americans" that they claim to have, they would have won it, wouldn't they? Seeing as how there is a major backlash against current politicians, of which Mark Crist is, and of which Jack Murtha surely was, what good would his widow's support have done in the face of True American distrust and distaste of all currently seated politicians?

You can spin it any way you want - Crist won and The Republican/Tea Party candidate lost. Use any excuse you want - the fact that Crist is a conservative leaning Democrat means nothing in the face of the far right leanings of The Tea Party and the Republican running against him other than to prove that America's just not willing to go that far right.

If there's a "middle ground" to be met and Independents to be wooed before the November election, which party do you think will be more elastic and more likely to make the adjustment/compromise?
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The only news would have been if the guy lost. 2-1 Dem, in a district that relies heavily on the massive amounts of pork Murtha brought them. Who better to continue the gravy train, than Murtha's own man. The good news, is that another incumbent is gone.
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And, as already pointed out, the guy ran ANTI-Obama.

So 100% of the vote was ANTI-Obama.

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Would you see it as a victory for Tim Burns, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich and the rest of The Tea Party or Republicans, instead?
I don't see last night as a victory or a defeat for either side. It was overwhelmingly just primaries that were voted on.
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You can spin it any way you want - Crist won and The Republican/Tea Party candidate lost. Use any excuse you want - the fact that Crist is a conservative leaning Democrat means nothing in the face of the far right leanings of The Tea Party and the Republican running against him other than to prove that America's just not willing to go that far right.
And a couple months ago, the Republican candidate won Ted Kennedy's seat in the single most liberal state in the union. Of those two races, I think the Republicans won the more important one, don't you?
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If there's a "middle ground" to be met and Independents to be wooed before the November election, which party do you think will be more elastic and more likely to make the adjustment/compromise?
Obviously the Republicans are in a better position to woo the middle ground, because they aren't tied to any unpopular national agenda or figure. Being the party out of power has tremendous advantages, and I sure wouldn't want to be a democrat in a moderate district up for re-election this year.
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