patsfan13

That is totally incorrect. The police can ask you if they have stopped you for a ligit reason ie you were speeding. They just can't say you lok mexican show me your papers.


Holder and Napalitano are whining about this law when pressed they have admitted they haven't even read the law.

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DarrylS

You obviously have never spent much time in Mexico, if that is your definition of a third world country.. nobody is turning a blind eye, but to point to it as some type of environmental catastrophe, is faux outrage at best...

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DarrylS

Just how would such reasonable suspicion be found? The State of Az. is about 30% hispanic, most of whom are US citizens. Does everyone need to carry their papers with them all the time?? The statute gives no guidance to law enforcement officers on this point. I would like to see a good 4th Amendment claim on this statute.

Interesting to see how "reasonable suspicion" is operationalized...

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As I read both of your posts together I see valid points coming from both of you. The law was an honest albeit an over reaching attempt to solve a serious problem that is not all in right wing crazies’ minds. While visions of white hoods dance in the heads of hateful protestors and hateful rhetoric from politicians is directed at Arizona a closer look at the language in 20 B through 24 shows that it has problems for sure but it is not intended to be racist.

Daryl does ask a valid question though. Until it's answered and until the over reaction from the left is toned down we're going to be stuck in this all or nothing endless debate.

Clearly the left thinks the status quo is just fine. It is not. There's resistance from ending hireling because it hurts poor people only here to live the American dream.There's resistance to secure the border by whatever means is suggested. Somehow if someone isn't caught crossing then they just earned immigrant status worthy of amnesty. That's wrong.

I'll ask a question, if not this law and if not the status quo, then what?

TBradyOwnsYou

I believe a state issued drivers license or ID would count as "papers". I have a friend who married a "Mexican-looking" woman. She doesn't drive. She still carries a state issued ID with her whenever she goes out. I'm white, I carry multiple IDs on me when I go out. If I go to another country, I carry a passport on me 100% of the time. I don't see the big deal.

Harry Boy

Everybody in America gets asked for an ID, I've been asked in the supermarket, this is all just more Left Wing Bull*****, Liberals doing what they do best slobbering over The Bad guy and going against the system.

We all know for a fact that Liberalism is RACIST they are against anything that the Hard Working Conservative White Community Supports.

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wistahpatsfan

Those Mexicans should get a ticket for littering!

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reflexblue

13 This law is absurd, on top of it being abused if an illegal is arrested for not having their papers they now can ask for legal council and drag this out, and the tax payers ....pay. Before they were just drivein to the boarder and dump off on the Mexican side.

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PatsWSB47

I'll ask again. The illegal immigrant population continues to grow. If not this law and if not the status quo, then what? I'm not looking to paint anyone anything here. That just keeps us in the never ending loop of all or nothing on the border situation.......It's funny watching all the talking heads on Fox and MSNBC,. They do the same thing there that we do here, no solutions just a bunch of "Well, I wouldn't do that" responses.

TBradyOwnsYou

Does the law specifically state that the investigating party will "arrest" the person if they are found to be illegal, or that they turn them over to ICE for processing?