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Real World

So what's your excuse when it comes to ripping Sarah Palin? Funny how person X criticizing Kagan, results in a "woman who made it further" defense, from those who have repeatedly ripped another woman "who made it further" in Sarah Palin. Why is WP's criticism, while tasteless, principly any different than the bashing Ann Coulter, or Sarah Palin recieves from certain people in here? Is it their assumed political persuasion that makes one eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil, and the other fair?

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

chicowalker

There are legitimate reasons to rip Palin -- for example, the facts that she appeared completely vacuous on policy matters, was flummoxed by the demanding question "what do you read" and basically had a platform that pitted "real Americans" versus liberals.

There are probably legitimate reasons to rip Kagan, too -- but her appearance isn't one of them.

(And there's something ironic -- or something -- about bringing up Palin as some sort of counterexample in a thread ripping a SC nominee's looks, when Palin never would have become the celebrity she has become were it not for her looks)

Real World

While I'll openly admit, that when I first saw a picture of Kagan, I thought it was a dude (sorry, but it's the truth people), her looks should have absolutely nothing to do with the process. Only her opinions, merrits, and qualifications should determine whether or not she's given a spot on the SCOTUS. Not knowing too much about her, I can't say whether or not she's qualified, or a good choice. I will say that I do not like the fact that she doesn't have any judicial experience. While there are justices who've served without any, prior to joining the SCOTUS, I personally prefer that not be the case. I don't like the idea of people learning on the job, when that job is the highest possible position in said field.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Mrs.PatsFanInVa

I'll bet she does....and I'll bet she wouldn't be able to find anything I've said here that compared her to a man, said she looked like she was in drag or anything else that was meant to be outright insulting based on her appearance. Saying you don't think someone is qualified based on experience or even personal feeling about that person's personality is not the same thing as calling them "Jug Ears," or laughing about how ugly they are or basing an opinion on their looks and their looks alone.

I truly think you'd have a major problem trying to link me to any of those behaviours. I think you'd have a major problem linking any one of your so-called "lefties" to them. The sheer fact that we all continue to refer to the right as simply "the right" while we are referred to as "Moonbats," is enough to tell you what line that name-calling stuff is drawn on.

I'll also save myself the trouble of a new post and simply say to WP that I am not surpised he is unwilling to back up his accusations - it's hard to pull things out of thin air.

patsfan13

I was laughing at your atatement about being jealous of someone who had accomplished what you never would. SO delicious coming from you.

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Mrs.PatsFanInVa

No, it's the tastelessness of it. Had WP said he disliked Kagan because he felt she was inexperienced, a quitter, unqualified, too young, too old or simply not intelligent enough and was able to back up his opinions with some solid examples of why he felt that way it would be perfectly legitimate opinion and it would have been possible to either agree with him or to offer conflicting opinion and examples of the same. However, choosing to ignore all of those available avenues (which are avenues we've pursued in the case of Sarah Palin) and instead focusing on her looks - and focusing on them in the most basest of manners - all he's done is to establish his own inability to form a coherent thought much less present a valid objection to her appointment.

If his sole reason to objecting to her appointment is because he thinks she's unattractive (and he's offered nothing to the contrary by way of explanation) it means that the only thing he feels capable of understanding is appearance and that he's perfectly comfortable with a person's appearance being the deciding factor in their ability to impress him.

Personally, I find that's a pretty unimpressive quality in a person.

Wolfpack

Just out of curiousity, where did I (or anyone else) say that Mr. Kagan wasn't qualified? Fact is I never heard of him before Friday so I have not yet opined on his qualifications.
If you don't see the insults regularly thrown out by the left leaning members of this forum, then you really are blind.

reflexblue

Sarah palin made it because she got all the brain dead rubes to buy into her shlock and her body. I guess this would be an insult if it weren't for the fact that its true.

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Wolfpack

Translation: When we do it, it's OK. But when you do it, it's eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil.