dryheat44

Maybe we should have a thread to identify ourselves, so on those rare occasions we have civilized debate, we know where the players are coming from. For example, my cheat sheet would read:

White Male
Age: 32
Occupation: Federal Employee (civilian)
Grew up in: Massachusetts
Registered Party: Independent
Military Experience: None. Tried, medically disqualified.
Pro-Choice
Support equal rights for gays, but should be a state issue
Pro-Capital Punishment for Violent Criminals
Support legalization of all drugs
Less power to Federal Govt. More to states.
O.K. with higher taxes, provided they go to the public good.
Anti-War in Iraq
Anti-Patriot act
Pro-Gun control for semi-automatic and automatic weapons.
Refuse to give up civil liberties in the name of security
Pro-neutrality in the Middle East.
Pro-major election reform.
Anti George Wrong Bush...worst president ever

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gomezcat

I am also a white male, of English and Irish descent (first generation unlike you Plastic Paddies), raised in Manchester, now living in London (not all that dissimilar from abandoning Boston for New Yoik).
Similar opinions to above.
I was actually pro war as I bought the propaganda. Now that we are there, I don't see how we can pull out at the moment.
I have no Military experience as I am a lousy fighter, weigh 280lbs (and share Ted Washington's physique), hate loud bangs, being killed and shouted at. I also look cr*p in khaki. Miss Gomezcat would like me to point out that my combat experience extends to play fighting with her (she wins even though I have done some restraint training- in another life, she would have been a nasty inside linebacker or headhunting strong safety) and the eponymous Gomez, who has a tendency to swipe people with his paw from their blindside.

I work for a charity supporting vulnerable people to live in social housing in the poorest part of the country.

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BlueTalon

Good idea, Dryheat! (I'm using your post as a template.)

Nordic-Slavic mix (white male)
Age: 44
Occupation: US Marine (firearms and language instructor)
Grew up in: Washington State, near Seattle
Registered Party: Republican
Military Experience: 3 years Army Reserves, 6 years active Navy, 9 1/2 years Marine Corps
Anti-abortion in almost all cases -- the unborn human is human, and should be treated as such
Support equal rights for gays (except for marriage, which I believe is a historical/social institution that should not be arbitrarily redefined)
Pro-Capital Punishment for violent criminals and sex criminals, and perhaps others
Oppose legalization of most drugs, but support medical use of marijuana
Less power to Federal Govt, more to states, in most cases
Pro-flat tax (but would support a consumption tax), believe taxes must be fair
Believe war/democratization in Iraq is worthwhile and will be successful
Believe Patriot act is necessary
Believe our borders should be secured and protected with a large wall and lots of uniformed guys with guns
Pro-legal immigration, anti-illegal immigration, and believe we should bill Mexico for health care, education and imprisonment of illegals
Pro-strict regulation of automatic weapons and other class III destructive devices, anti-gun control in all other cases
Believe we must support our allies (in the Middle East and elsewhere), if we wish to have allies in the future
Pro-election reform (pro-paper ballots)
Pro-education reform (pro-vouchers, but open to other ideas as well)
Pro-Social Security reform (pro-private accounts -- the current pyramid structure must be scrapped)
Pro-tort reform
Pro-environmental regulation reform (I'm all for clean air and water and soil, but some regulations are extreme and need to be changed)
Pro-drilling in Alaska, offshore, where-ever else we have oil deposits, pro-weaning ourselves from foreign oil
Pro-alternative energy, but I'm for letting the market drive it
Pro-nuclear power
Support President Bush, but not unilaterally -- I believe he has made many mistakes
Believe that until the Democrats re-evaluate themselves, they won't be able to beat someone like Bush

Harry Boy

Harry Boy

1 Ex Democrat

2 Now a Neo Con

Chevy

American
Age: 36
Occupation: Business Owner
Grew up in: Central Massachusetts
Registered Party: Republican
Military Experience: 12 Year US Air Force

• Anti-Abortion but still Pro-Choice (my personal views don't give me the right to take a choice this serious from the individual)
• Support equal rights for gays (including marriage, which I believe is a simple contract between consenting adults. Let the churches worry about their eternal souls.)
• Pro-Capital Punishment for violent criminals and sex criminals, and perhaps others
• Either legalize drugs or effectively combat the drug trade. This middle-of-the-road garbage doesn't work.
• Less power to Federal Govt, more to states, in most cases
• Pro-flat tax (or would support a consumption tax), believe taxes must be fair
• Believe war/democratization in Iraq is worthwhile and will be successful
• Believe Patriot act is necessary
• Believe our borders should be secured and protected with a large wall and lots of uniformed guys with guns
• Pro-legal immigration, anti-illegal immigration, and believe we should bill Mexico for health care, education and imprisonment of illegals
• Pro-strict regulation of automatic weapons and other class III destructive devices, anti-gun control in all other cases
• Believe we must support our allies, if we wish to have allies in the future
• Believe we will never have a true ally in the Middle East, but can have a working relationship that is beneficial to all parties.
• Believe that Islam must go, quietly or kicking and screaming, it has no place in modern society.
• Pro-election reform (automate the system - we have the technology)
• Pro-education reform (pro-vouchers, but open to other ideas as well)
• Pro-Social Security dismantling - private investments return more to the individual
• Pro-tort reform
• Pro-environmental regulation reform (I'm all for clean air and water and soil, but some regulations are extreme and need to be changed)
• Pro-drilling in Alaska, offshore, where-ever else we have oil deposits
• Pro-weaning ourselves from foreign oil
• Pro-alternative energy, but I'm for letting the market drive it
• Pro-nuclear power
• Anti-UN - at the least the US should withdraw. At the most we should see it disbanded
• While I believe the freedoms granted us by the Bill of Rights are what makes this country great, I also feel we as a nation have lost our way. We no longer accept, or even acknowledge, the responsibilities that go with these freedoms. The press abuses its freedoms with irresponsible reporting, and individuals refuse to consider the possibility the in exercising their rights, they are impinging on the rights of others.

(some plagiarizing, I know. Blue Talon expressed my own views well enough not to change some of them.)

shirtsleeve

OK, My turn
Shirtsleeve, lifelong Pats Fan
Male
Age 44
White, of Italian heritage.
Raised in North Central Ma. Lived for years in Nirvana, er, NH, but now reside in the People's Republic again.
Occupation:Power Engineer
No military service-medical disqualification.
No Political party affiliation. They've sold us out.

-Anti free-trade,anti globalist in every form. Extreme nationalist-protectionist. I see this as the single biggest threat to the country today, not terrorism.
-Pro separation of church and state. Completely and entirely. Including all references to god, prayer in school, holiday celebrations, etc. Jefferson said we must build a wall between our government and the church. I agree. This means banning ALL marraiges. Issue civil licenses for all partners to equally protect rights. Marraige is a religious ceremony. Keep it in the church.
-Anti-Abortion but still Pro-Choice until conception occurs. This includes the new emergency drugs post coitus-pre conception.
-Support equal rights for gays.
-Anti Capital Punishment. One innocent man executed makes me a murderer.
-Pro legalizing drugs, prostitution, gambling, polygamy, and any other "vice" crime.
-Less power to Federal Govt, more to states, in all cases except the military.
-Pro-flat tax (or would support a consumption tax).
-Believe war in Iraq is a necessary evil, brought on by Israeli pressure, and requires a completion.
-Believe Patriot act is unconstitutional.
-Believe our borders should be secured and protected with a large wall and lots of uniformed guys with guns
-Pro-legal immigration, anti-illegal immigration, and believe we should bill Mexico for health care, education and imprisonment of illegals.
-Anti-gun control in all cases. Even classIII and military ordnance. The 2nd ammendment was written to allow us the opportunity to overthrow any government that no longer functioned democratically.
-Believe we must support our allies, if we wish to have allies in the future.
-Believe we will never have a true ally in the Middle East, but can have a working relationship that is beneficial to all parties.
-Believe that Fundamentalist radical Islam must go, quietly or kicking and screaming, it has no place in modern society. The same can be said for Fundamentalist radical Christians. Believe that all people should be able to peacefully practice their faith without persecution.
-Pro-election reform (automate the system - we have the technology)
-Pro-education reform (pro-vouchers, but open to other ideas as well)
-Pro-Social Security dismantling - private investments return more to the individual
-Pro-tort reform. Especially where medical malpractice is concerned.
-Pro-environmental regulation reform (I'm all for clean air and water and soil, but some regulations are extreme and need to be changed)
-Pro-drilling in Alaska, offshore, where-ever else we have oil deposits
-Pro-weaning ourselves from foreign oil
-Pro-alternative energy, but I'm for letting the market drive it
-Pro-nuclear power
Anti-UN - at the least the US should withdraw. At the most we should see it disbanded.
-I believe the freedoms granted us by the Bill of Rights are what makes this country great. While this may cause some moral negatives, our system is not based on legislating morality. We must preserve these basic rights as written at all costs, or we fail as a nation.
-Against socialized medicine. Against almost all social programs in general. The government has proven itself an inept failure at supporting the lower classes.


I used Talons template and adjusted it to reflect my views.

PatsFanInMaine

Age 39
White
Born/Raised - Albany, Georgia
Occupation - Lawyer
Political Affiliatin - Republican Party
Group Memberships - The Heritage Foundation, NRA, Boy Scouts of America
Pro Life
Pro Death Penalty
For Domestic Oil Exploration
For Patriot Act

PatsWickedPissah

Scotch-Irish (white male)
Born 1945
Grandfather
Height & weight of Pats WR corps; just retired from b-ball league
Amateur astronomer
Anti -semite (Gotcha!)
Occupation: Just retired from Hi-Tech engineering
Grew up in: Arlington & Winchester MA
Degrees in engineering and business
Registered Party: IND
Former Town Campaign Chairman for various Democratic candidates...e.g. John Kerry (everyone is allowed one egregious error), George McGovern, Paul Tsongas (Makes up for Kerry)
Former Town Finance Committee Chairman
Military Experience: Nominated by Tip O'Neil to Air Force Academy; rejected (asthma, back then there were no inhalers, etc.); astronaut career aborted
Don't like abortion; have problems telling others what they cannot do
Support equal rights for gays; would personally prefer that gay marriage, which I believe is a historical/social institution that should not be arbitrarily redefined, should be given a different name
Pro-Capital Punishment for violent criminals and sex criminals, maybe others with reservations about assurance of actual guilt
Support legalization of most drugs
Less power to Federal Govt, more to states, except for national security
Pro Fair Tax; believe taxes must be fair
Believe war/democratization in Middle East is worthwhile and has a chance to be successful
Believe Islamism is a serious threat to the West
Believe Patriot act is necessary pro tem
Believe our borders should be secured and protected with a large wall and lots of uniformed guys with guns
Pro increased legal immigration; anti-illegal immigration
Pro-strict regulation of automatic weapons and other class III destructive devices; anti-gun control in all other cases
Believe we must support our allies (in the Middle East and elsewhere), if we wish to have allies in the future
Pro-election reform (pro-paper ballots)
Pro-education reform (pro-vouchers; open to other ideas as well)
Pro-Social Security reform (pro-private accounts -- the current pyramid structure must be scrapped)
Pro-tort reform
Pro-environmental regulation reform (I'm all for clean air and water and soil, but some regulations are extreme and need to be changed)
Pro-drilling in Alaska, offshore, where-ever else we have oil deposits, pro-weaning ourselves from foreign oil
Pro-alternative energy; would support govt incentives in addition to market
Pro-nuclear power, R&D credits for a hydrogen economy & methane clathrate mining
Support President Bush's actions but not unilaterally -- my differences documented here ad nauseum
Believe that until the Democrats return to sanity they're lost, re: White House

FreeTedWilliams

White male, pure half breed (Irish Dad Italian Mom)
born in Boston, white flighted it to the South Shore in '72
left Mass for college (Syracuse '87 F&*$kin Kieth Smart)
taught Jr High, Dukakis ran for President, left state for good.
Lived in NYC, now in Savannah, GA
Profession- "Jack-Booted Thug" aka Federal Agent
was the only kid in my 7th grade class to vote for Gerald Ford in the mock Presidential election (I think we can all see now, how right I was).
Worked on campaigns for GOP state Rep back in Mass, and AL Haig for President! Already contacted Newt to work for him.
Stances:
The governemt does nothing right, or efficent, so I'm all for limited government (except for My job, of course)
Less Taxes always (see above)
Drill in the artic.
Annex Western Canda while we're at it too!
Islam is a grave danger to this world, and unless the moderate muslims begin to seperate themselves from the lunatics, the world is going to have a hell of a fight on our hands.
PRO: school vouchers, privitazation of socail security, shut down the borders, kick everyone out!, guest farm worker program (making them pay a 20% flat federal tax rate), tort reform, (England has loser pays, and it has yet to fall off into oblivion), nuclear power (anyone who had to pay those ridiculous LILCO rates on Long Island, because some old 60's hippies got an LSD flashback and closed down a perfectly good noo-cle-air power plant feels the same way). England, and I have at least three people on death row that I would like to throw the switch on.
ANTI: Universal Healthcare (I like having teeth), Colts, Jets, France, Palestine (dumbest idea ever! given into to terrorists), Any tax increase and or social welfare program (get a job), union, NAMBLA, NEA (notice who easily the two of them go together), gun control (I have NEVER arrested anyone who used a legally purchased gun in for any crime, if guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns).

I have a deep and profound respect for: anyone, yes even NEM, who has every served in this country's military (I have not), my father, my wife, BB.

I absolutely loathe: college professors, any senator from Mass who's last name starts with "KE", Hillary, Bill, Billy Bulger, (yet not Whitey, because afterall at least he didn't pretend to not be a criminal, see ya at spring training Whitey), Rap music, people who can not laugh at themsleves.

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gomezcat

I never realised that the loser doesn't pay in civil actions in the US. I agree that it works, as those cases without any merit don't get to court and malicious actions get punished.
I find your answer about gun crime very interesting, i.e. that you have never arrested anyone who held a gun legally. Our gun laws were made even more strict after two massacres involving gun club members (I think). That said, anyone who wants to get a gun here, can speak to their local crim and get one.

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