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Old 03-02-2006, 06:12 PM   #11
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The Chinese Red Army have, for decades, taken into account the fact that American civilians were rather heavily armed, and have used it in their risk assessment for scenario planning relative to a theoretical war with the US.

Hopefully, the US government also takes this into consideration about their own civilians.
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Old 03-02-2006, 06:35 PM   #12
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The Chinese Red Army have, for decades, taken into account the fact that American civilians were rather heavily armed, and have used it in their risk assessment for scenario planning relative to a theoretical war with the US.

Hopefully, the US government also takes this into consideration about their own civilians.
I'm not challenging you since I have no reason to think you'd make this up, but is this general knowledge? I'd think China's war planning would be very secretive, and I have a gut feeling like the source here might be gun-right supporters in this country.
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I'm not challenging you since I have no reason to think you'd make this up, but is this general knowledge? I'd think China's war planning would be very secretive, and I have a gut feeling like the source here might be gun-right supporters in this country.
I don't know about China, but I do know that Japan was wary of the American gun-toting population during WWII, which is one of the reasons they never invaded the continental mainland.
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Seriously, what? I'm not even sure which side of the argument your quote supports.
Neither, this issue is too complicated on both sides, while I support the constitution and all of its amendments, do not understand the need for semi automatic weapons or assault rifles. I support people's right to own guns and carry them if deemed competent. This is one amendment that may have intended for one reason and now has gotten bastardized by lobbyists and completely misconstrued in its intent. My major concern is that there has been no ability to stop cheap illegal weapons in america who are possessed by criminals, who have no right to own them.
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The Chinese Red Army have, for decades, taken into account the fact that American civilians were rather heavily armed, and have used it in their risk assessment for scenario planning relative to a theoretical war with the US.

Hopefully, the US government also takes this into consideration about their own civilians.
THE LIBERALS AND ANTI GUN FREAKS WILL NEVER BELIEVE THIS CHINA THING.

THE MUSH BRAINS STILL CAN'T GET IT THROUGH THEIR AIR HEADS THAT THE BAD GUY WILL ALWAYS HAVE HIS GUN NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF GOOFY LAWS THEY COME UP WITH.

WE HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOKS NOW THAT WOULD HELP IN REDUCING CRIME AND GETTING ILLEGAL GUNS OFF THE STREETS, AS SOON AS WE TRY TO ENFORCE THOSE LAWS THE "WHACK JOB LIBERAL PONY TAILED LAWYERS" CLAIM WE ARE VIOLATING THE BAD GUYS CIVIL LIBERTIES.

WASHINGTON DC IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE STRICT GUN LAWS, MANY HONEST LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ARE FORBIDDEN TO OWN GUNS, PERMITS FOR CONCEALED WEAPONS ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET (ISN'T WASHINGTON CONSIDERED THE MURDER CAPITAL) NOW LOOK UP THE RECORD OF "ILLEGAL GUN CRIMES" IN WASHINGTON THEN LOOK UP THE SAME RECORDS FOR THE STATE OF MAINE (LEGAL GUN COUNTRY).
IF ONE OF THE CRIMINAL MAGGOTS FROM WASHINGTON COMES TO MAINE AND TRYS TO BREAK INTO A HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT HE WILL BE DEAD BEFORE HE CAN GET HIS LEG IN THE WINDOW, SHOT DEAD, BY A LEGAL WEAPON.
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THE LIBERALS AND ANTI GUN FREAKS WILL NEVER BELIEVE THIS CHINA THING.

THE MUSH BRAINS STILL CAN'T GET IT THROUGH THEIR AIR HEADS THAT THE BAD GUY WILL ALWAYS HAVE HIS GUN NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF GOOFY LAWS THEY COME UP WITH.

WE HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOKS NOW THAT WOULD HELP IN REDUCING CRIME AND GETTING ILLEGAL GUNS OFF THE STREETS, AS SOON AS WE TRY TO ENFORCE THOSE LAWS THE "WHACK JOB LIBERAL PONY TAILED LAWYERS" CLAIM WE ARE VIOLATING THE BAD GUYS CIVIL LIBERTIES.

WASHINGTON DC IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE STRICT GUN LAWS, MANY HONEST LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ARE FORBIDDEN TO OWN GUNS, PERMITS FOR CONCEALED WEAPONS ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET (ISN'T WASHINGTON CONSIDERED THE MURDER CAPITAL) NOW LOOK UP THE RECORD OF "ILLEGAL GUN CRIMES" IN WASHINGTON THEN LOOK UP THE SAME RECORDS FOR THE STATE OF MAINE (LEGAL GUN COUNTRY).
IF ONE OF THE CRIMINAL MAGGOTS FROM WASHINGTON COMES TO MAINE AND TRYS TO BREAK INTO A HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT HE WILL BE DEAD BEFORE HE CAN GET HIS LEG IN THE WINDOW, SHOT DEAD, BY A LEGAL WEAPON.
I'm all for guns, but that doesn't make the China thing more or less true. I'm more curious about the source for its own sake, it just seems like so little info comes from the Chinese government unless its propoganda.
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"Never pet a burning dog." -WarCraft II

Seriously, what? I'm not even sure which side of the argument your quote supports.
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I'm all for private ownership of guns, with the exception of semi-automatic and automatic weapons.

They are used solely for hunting humans, and shouldn't be available to non-military.

The day we have a Red Dawn attack, as some here seem to think is coming, or a Normandy invasion on our shores, boy, won't my face be red.

But I'll the the first minuteman on the beach to defend.
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I'm not challenging you since I have no reason to think you'd make this up, but is this general knowledge? I'd think China's war planning would be very secretive, and I have a gut feeling like the source here might be gun-right supporters in this country.
No, it's an urban legend that's been spread for years now by gun freaks and the Conservative party. It's on the same level as the college guy sodomized by his roommate while knocked out with ether, and the pop rocks thing.

I know a guy who claims to have seen the plans.
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No, it's an urban legend that's been spread for years now by gun freaks and the Conservative party. It's on the same level as the college guy sodomized by his roommate while knocked out with ether, and the pop rocks thing.

I know a guy who claims to have seen the plans.
I agree, there is a lot of bull***** out there, I can't see a country like China being concerned with Americans hand guns. The days of the foot soldier from a powerful country going from house to house kicking in doors I believe is over, if it does come to war it will be Nukes.

Could the Old Wino sitting on the corner with a sign that says "The End Is Near" be right?
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I agree, there is a lot of bull***** out there, I can't see a country like China being concerned with Americans hand guns. The days of the foot soldier from a powerful country going from house to house kicking in doors I believe is over, if it does come to war it will be Nukes.
Or bacterial agents. Either way, if and when that happens, this country's population (and the world's also) will take a major hit, and it's nothing that a well-armed citizenry can prevent.
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