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“Sicko,” the talk of the Cannes Film Festival last week, savages the American health care system — and along the way extols Cuba’s system as the neatest thing since the white linen guayabera.
Mr. Moore transports a handful of sick Americans to Cuba for treatment in the course of the film, which is scheduled to open in the United States next month, and he is apparently dumbfounded that they could get there what they couldn’t get here.
HAVANA — Twenty-six patients at Cuba's largest hospital for the mentally ill died this week during a cold snap, the government said Friday.
Human rights leaders cited negligence and a lack of resources as factors in the deaths, and the Health Ministry launched an investigation that it said could lead to criminal proceedings.
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Re: Hey Michael Moore.... How about that Cuba health plan !
It is quite a stretch to say something that apparently works well, and a weather event is connected.. it is akin to trying to understand in this great nation with its bloated defense budget including legacy costs, why we have homeless veteran's.. something are what they are, and the dots do not connect.
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Re: Hey Michael Moore.... How about that Cuba health plan !
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It is quite a stretch to say something that apparently works well, and a weather event is connected.. it is akin to trying to understand in this great nation with its bloated defense budget including legacy costs, why we have homeless veteran's.. something are what they are, and the dots do not connect.
Losing 26 patients of hypothermia at 38.6 degrees says a lot.
38.6 degrees is far from a Tsunami, Hurricane, Tornado, or Blizzard.
Re: Hey Michael Moore.... How about that Cuba health plan !
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Losing 26 patients of hypothermia at 38.6 degrees says a lot.
38.6 degrees is far from a Tsunami, Hurricane, Tornado, or Blizzard.
If you have ever traveled in tropical climes, their tolerance of cold is much different than ours.. every time I am in Mexico, when it goes below 70 degrees and there is wind.. time to break out the winter coats.
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Re: Hey Michael Moore.... How about that Cuba health plan !
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If you have ever traveled in tropical climes, their tolerance of cold is much different than ours.. every time I am in Mexico, when it goes below 70 degrees and there is wind.. time to break out the winter coats.
You just made his point for him
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Re: Hey Michael Moore.... How about that Cuba health plan !
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If you have ever traveled in tropical climes, their tolerance of cold is much different than ours.. every time I am in Mexico, when it goes below 70 degrees and there is wind.. time to break out the winter coats.
Castro's wonderful health care should have provided free "winter coats"
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Re: Hey Michael Moore.... How about that Cuba health plan !
I do understand the critique that there are not enough winter coats in Cuba, during a rare cold snap. Similarly, there are not enough indoor environments in America during cold snaps by our own standards. Therefore, of course there are more hypothermia deaths in our society. It's a colder country, so we have more chances to die of it. I don't blame America for this state of affairs, although ideally nobody would die of hypothermia. It's a preventable death.
According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, about 650 people died of hypothermia each year between 1999 and 2002. About half of those people were over 65 years old.
If you like anecdotal more than numerical, just read the remainder of the story.
Official records indicate that nearly twelve thousand homeless people died of hypothermia between 1979 and 1994. However, these numbers are probably not accurate. Many deaths of homeless people from hypothermia probably go unreported.
...which indicates 13338 died of hypothermia here from '79-'95.
The OP seems to believe that the fact that these deaths are within a Cuban state facility proves the adequacy of American health care. It does not. It proves that it rarely gets cold in Cuba, and that the Cuban system is lame at preventing hypothermia deaths -- just as the U.S. health care system is very bad at preventing preventable deaths in general, based on more statistical (and less anecdotal) evidence.
But cherry-pick away. We must be doing very well here at preventing preventable deaths, if some people died of cold in Cuba.
Hey Michael Moore.... How about that Cuba health plan !
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