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DisgruntledTunaFan · 01-18-2010, 07:22 PM

U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes - ABC News

Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the United States military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.

U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.

One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

Other references include citations from the books of Revelation, Matthew and John dealing with Jesus as "the light of the world." John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, "Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions "have always been there" and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is "not Christian." The company has said the practice began under its founder, Glyn Bindon, a devout Christian from South Africa who was killed in a 2003 plane crash.

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PatriotsReign · 01-18-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DisgruntledTunaFan

U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes - ABC News

Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the United States military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.

U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.

One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

Other references include citations from the books of Revelation, Matthew and John dealing with Jesus as "the light of the world." John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, "Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions "have always been there" and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is "not Christian." The company has said the practice began under its founder, Glyn Bindon, a devout Christian from South Africa who was killed in a 2003 plane crash.

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I'm absolutely fine with these codes on the sites. They're not obvious religious inscriptions and need to be interprated in order to understand them, so why all the fuss?

If I owned a company that supplied weapons to our soldiers, I too might slip something spiritual on them to bless our soldiers. After all, it is only the safety of our soldiers that matter here, not what foreigners might think. We're sending over our young men & women to help them and I don't care one bit if anything offends Afghanis or Iraqi's.

Of course they wouldn't be aware of anything until ABC news told them. What does that say about ABC news?

Patsfanin Philly · 01-18-2010, 10:15 PM

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I'm absolutely fine with these codes on the sites. They're not obvious religious inscriptions and need to be interprated in order to understand them, so why all the fuss?

If I owned a company that supplied weapons to our soldiers, I too might slip something spiritual on them to bless our soldiers. After all, it is only the safety of our soldiers that matter here, not what foreigners might think. We're sending over our young men & women to help them and I don't care one bit if anything offends Afghanis or Iraqi's.

Of course they wouldn't be aware of anything until ABC news told them. What does that say about ABC news?

This is OT but
http://www.newsreview.com/chico/content?oid=10876.
a Navy dentist inscribed the words "Remember Pearl Harbor" in morse code in dentures he made for Gen. Tojo while the Japanese premier was in custody after WW2.

PatriotsReign · 01-18-2010, 10:32 PM

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This is OT but
http://www.newsreview.com/chico/content?oid=10876.
a Navy dentist inscribed the words "Remember Pearl Harbor" in morse code in dentures he made for Gen. Tojo while the Japanese premier was in custody after WW2.

Great story PFinPhilly!

***DarrylS*** · 01-19-2010, 03:43 AM

If you violate the rules of Government Contracting, you should loose the contract pure and simple... not a lot of grey area here, to enable and excuse a company under the guise of religion or other reason is not expected. The reality is that not everyone in the US Military is christian, and some who are will take exception...

If you sign a contract to provide military equipment, you are expected to fulfill all apects of the contract in accordance with the rules... if the Koran was encoded the outcry would be very loud and clear.. if another religion was encoded that outcry would be similar... we are not all christians.

ljuneau · 01-19-2010, 09:39 AM

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If you violate the rules of Government Contracting, you should loose the contract pure and simple... not a lot of grey area here, to enable and excuse a company under the guise of religion or other reason is not expected. The reality is that not everyone in the US Military is christian, and some who are will take exception...

If you sign a contract to provide military equipment, you are expected to fulfill all apects of the contract in accordance with the rules... if the Koran was encoded the outcry would be very loud and clear.. if another religion was encoded that outcry would be similar... we are not all christians.

But the rule in question is specific to proselytizing. Encoding some words on military equipment is definately not proselytizing. So I don't see what rule was broken.

JackBauer · 01-19-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

I'm absolutely fine with these codes on the sites. They're not obvious religious inscriptions and need to be interprated in order to understand them, so why all the fuss?

If I owned a company that supplied weapons to our soldiers, I too might slip something spiritual on them to bless our soldiers. After all, it is only the safety of our soldiers that matter here, not what foreigners might think. We're sending over our young men & women to help them and I don't care one bit if anything offends Afghanis or Iraqi's.

Of course they wouldn't be aware of anything until ABC news told them. What does that say about ABC news?

For starters, not all US soldiers are Christians?

PatriotsReign · 01-19-2010, 09:44 AM

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For starters, not all US soldiers are Christians?

If I wanted to bless you Jack, I'd do it my way, not yours. That is how one blesses another anywhere in the world.

If you are Muslim and you bless me in the Muslim way, I'd be grateful.

JackBauer · 01-19-2010, 09:48 AM

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If I wanted to bless you Jack, I'd do it my way, not yours. That is how one blesses another anywhere in the world.

If you are Muslim and you bless me in the Muslim way, I'd be grateful.

Seems pretty stupid on the part of the manufacturer. But then again, it appears they've been doing this for 20+ years, so it is what it is.

Hebeill · 01-19-2010, 09:51 AM

Hmm something that enables someone to kill with more precision, yeah that really sounds like something Jesus would want to be associated with.