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Former President Jimmy Carter, who publicly rebuked President Bush's warrantless eavesdropping program this week during the funeral of Coretta Scott King and at a campaign event, used similar surveillance against suspected spies. "Under the Bush administration, there's been a disgraceful and illegal decision -- we're not going to the let the judges or the Congress or anyone else know that we're spying on the American people," Mr. Carter said Monday in Nevada when his son Jack announced his Senate campaign. ...
But in 1977, Mr. Carter and his attorney general, Griffin B. Bell, authorized warrantless electronic surveillance used in the conviction of two men for spying on behalf of Vietnam. The men, Truong Dinh Hung and Ronald Louis Humphrey, challenged their espionage convictions to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, which unanimously ruled that the warrantless searches did not violate the men's rights.
In its opinion, the court said the executive branch has the "inherent authority" to wiretap enemies such as terror plotters and is excused from obtaining warrants when surveillance is "conducted 'primarily' for foreign intelligence reasons."
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Not only does Jimmy Carter betray his hypocrisy here, but his Attorney General told Congress when it debated the FISA law in 1978 that FISA would not impede the president from exercising precisely this power under the Constitution. The Times also notes that Jamie Gorelick said much the same thing in 1994. In any case, the appellate court certainly agreed with both Bell and Carter in 1980, even after passage of FISA the year after the surveillance took place.
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Read the whole thing; it gets worse for senile Jimmah and his braying synchophants.
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Carter is a sneaky little weasle, people like him can never be trusted, they all know what he is they just tolerate him, they also show him respect for the office he held as President something he didn't do for the sitting president. Carter is a lousy little back stabbing rat.
Did you miss this key ruling from the court in your polemic? I think so...
In its opinion, the court said the executive branch has the "inherent authority" to wiretap enemies such as terror plotters and is excused from obtaining warrants when surveillance is "conducted 'primarily' for foreign intelligence reasons."
Bush's actions are not some sleazy Clinton White House deal where FBI records on American citizens are mysteriously 'left' in the White House for months.
Remember Bush is taping foreign calls and in WARTIME , not that you really care. Scoring points against Bush is far, far more important in your twisted world than the security of the United States of America and its citizens. Sad.
Clinton did it, Carter did it now it is only a problem when Bush does it. The only weasels I see are the hypocrites on the left, who only moan about things when a Republicans does something.
You guyus continue to grasp at straws. What Bush's predecessors did is nothing compared to what Bush is doing and are totally different situations...
For the 1st time ever, you're right!
Bush is defending the country against terrorists while we're under threat of attack.
Carter was prosecuting a domestic spying case.
Who knows what Hill & Bill were doing with the hundreds of FBI files on US citizens
BHull s hit..the only terroist attack this country had on it came on Bush's watch, even thoughhe had warnings ahead of time...He is a fu kking murder of Americans.
Nd he has created an enemy 10 times bigger and stronger than ever before.Hopefully, because of Bush, yo uand your family wont be the ones to die in the next attack onour soil.FOOL
I for one am glad Bush came along to expose a giant sleeper cell in this country, the extreme left wing of the Democrat party, which you happen to belong to. You like seeing Americans killed everyday with your comment that soldiers are war criminals. It is refreshing that we now know who the enemies of America are foreign and domestic. Thank you!
Listen, you little p;iece of s hit... i have never said that soldiers are war criminials so dont go putting ******* words into my mouth yu liitle piece of garbage.
If yu are content to continue to be responsible for killing American soldiers for yur fukkking noble cause which doesnt exist, then yushould rot in a lfukking federal prison for the rest of you r life, yui friggin pice of human waste.
Dont put words into my mouth that were never said.... get the lfukk out of here yu damned soldier killer...screw you.
Dude, chill. You're starting to foam at the mouth.
there are so many Bush scandals and so many tales of corruption, that none really get the attention they deserve, and they therefore all end up blurring into one another and resulting in basically nothing. The solution is for one or two of them (such as the NSA scandal, where Bush plainly broke the law and over which members of his own party are starting to revolt), but the real impediment for Bush opponents is that there is little coordination and they so often are working at cross-purposes that even the most devastating scandals end up having little or no impact.
The Democratic egos are all getting in the way.
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