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Old 01-05-2010, 11:14 AM   #1
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The Safety Net - Living on Nothing but Food Stamps - Series - NYTimes.com

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About six million Americans receiving food stamps report they have no other income, according to an analysis of state data collected by The New York Times. In declarations that states verify and the federal government audits, they described themselves as unemployed and receiving no cash aid — no welfare, no unemployment insurance, and no pensions, child support or disability pay.

Their numbers were rising before the recession as tougher welfare laws made it harder for poor people to get cash aid, but they have soared by about 50 percent over the past two years. About one in 50 Americans now lives in a household with a reported income that consists of nothing but a food-stamp card.
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Food Stamp cards (they give them Debit cards now) are a great source of income. Go to any bodega in NYC, and they will give you 30-50 cents on the dollar for your swipe. The entire social welfare model needs to be thrown out. Get the government out of the social welfare business altogether.

Charities will take over and run social wlefare programs much cheaper, more effectively, and with much less fraud, then the current government run systems.

I guarentee you that more tax dollars are spent on administration and fraud for welfare, medicaid, & food stamps programs, than actually go to the poor.
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Food Stamp cards (they give them Debit cards now) are a great source of income. Go to any bodega in NYC, and they will give you 30-50 cents on the dollar for your swipe. The entire social welfare model needs to be thrown out. Get the government out of the social welfare business altogether.

Charities will take over and run social wlefare programs much cheaper, more effectively, and with much less fraud, then the current government run systems.
Do you have any contemporary or historical examples of the "charity model," as you described, in action?

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I guarentee you that more tax dollars are spent on administration and fraud for welfare, medicaid, & food stamps programs, than actually go to the poor.
Interesting postulation. Do you have any evidence to support your claim?
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Do you have any contemporary or historical examples of the "charity model," as you described, in action?

check out any "homeless shelter" and see the difference between a church run one, and one run be a government.


Interesting postulation. Do you have any evidence to support your claim?
Aside from everyone that I have arrested for it, the government will admit that 2% of all money spent on food stamps is lost to fraud, now add the budget for running the department of agriculture then the state and then local government agencies that administer the food stamp programs locally, and triple the 2% figure to the actual fraud figure (which is probably still a little low) and I bet you come close to the amount that goes to the poor.

Food stamp fraud may steal $400M from stimulus funds - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
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Charities will take over and run social wlefare programs much cheaper, more effectively, and with much less fraud, then the current government run systems.

I guarentee you that more tax dollars are spent on administration and fraud for welfare, medicaid, & food stamps programs, than actually go to the poor.
So true. There is a great organization here in Nashville called the Nashville Rescue Mission. It feeds, houses and educates the homeless and does so for pennies on what it would cost the government.

They get no money from the government, simply through charitable donations.

I fine example of how charities can take over and run social welfare much cheaper, more efficiently and more effectively.
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The President Of The United States Of America, the leader of the free world has an illegal alien aunt who is on "food stamps"

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