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I really wonder if this guy will have a punchers chance in 2012. I highly doubt it, but he's sounding more and more like what we need, with each passing day. Too bad he's so old, in his 70's I believe, cuz his ideology has been gaining steam over the last few years. Supposedly his son is a chip off of the old man's block, and is being courted to follow in his dad's political foot steps. We shall see I guess.
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I really wonder if this guy will have a punchers chance in 2012. I highly doubt it, but he's sounding more and more like what we need, with each passing day. Too bad he's so old, in his 70's I believe, cuz his ideology has been gaining steam over the last few years. Supposedly his son is a chip off of the old man's block, and is being courted to follow in his dad's political foot steps. We shall see I guess.
I really wonder if this guy will have a punchers chance in 2012. I highly doubt it, but he's sounding more and more like what we need, with each passing day.
Wow, here you go again, 5 years behind the curve. A few years from now this joker will probably be complaining about credit default swaps.
Wow, here you go again, 5 years behind the curve. A few years from now this joker will probably be complaining about credit default swaps.
What are you talking about? Paul was out in front of this whole collapse of the currency, banks failing, trade deficit, Foreign entanglements...the list is long.
What's your specific point? How has he been "behind the curve"?
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I'm not surprised you're attracted to his his dated views, ideas that were rejected around the turn of the last century.
Also, he had that troubling racist newsletter, Ron Paul's Political Report. Also, if you believe Paul's Libertarian, consider that he's actively anti-abortion.
What are you talking about? Paul was out in front of this whole collapse of the currency, banks failing, trade deficit, Foreign entanglements...the list is long.
What's your specific point? How has he been "behind the curve"?
I believe Mav is referring to RW, not Paul.
I've always liked a lot of what Paul has to say. (And for the record, he is NOT a racist, had nothing to do with the editorial content of that newsletter, and his ideology runs completely perpendicular to bigotry).
Where I differ with Paul (and I suspect his son) is his clamoring for completely unregulated free market capitalism. If we've learned anything the past 50 years, it's that private enterprise can not be counted on to help or protect their fellow Americans, and care only for bottom-line profit, even if that means putting their fellow Americans in peril. It's largely the reason we are where we are. Greed. And at the core of free market capitalism IS greed.
I don't agree with big government, especially when it doesn't act ethically. But there is far more accountability with government oversight than there is with unchecked private enterprise. We need look no further than triple-billed Iraq reconstruction and Katrina aid to be convinced of that fact.
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I'm not surprised you're attracted to his his dated views, ideas that were rejected around the turn of the last century.
Also, he had that troubling racist newsletter, Ron Paul's Political Report. Also, if you believe Paul's Libertarian, consider that he's actively anti-abortion.
Ron Paul the person is Anti-Abortion, that is true, Ron Paul the Politician believes the issue is best decided at the local level and doesn't think the Federal Government should decide that. He believe in individual rights, which allows him to personally be anti-abortion.
He's never once said he wants to pass a law to force you to be anti-abortion as well...
And that my friend is huge difference between Ron Paul and all the other career politicians.
I don't agree with big government, especially when it doesn't act ethically. But there is far more accountability with government oversight than there is with unchecked private enterprise.
WHAT!!??!!?? Are you serious?
Every regulatory Board is staffed with Industry Insiders!!! Our Fed Reserve people come from the banks, our FDA people come from big Agro and Big Pharma.
If anything, Government is the biggest problem of the last 50 years, push legislation that benefits few at the cost of many. time and time again.
To sit there and say Government regulation is better than the Free Market regulation is crazy.
Government all too often determines for you that you will use Oil, you will use Corn, and they have been deciding for you by subsidizing the things they want, based on who's getting the lobbyist money and gets the fancy positions in DC.
Government is the biggest, most transparently corrupt organization in this country, they don't advertise what they do, but if you look, its nothing but favors, and bribes.
Everything done in government follows this model. Concentrate the benefit and spread around the cost. This way when every American pays an additional 0.03 cents, we don't care, while 1 or 2 companies are getting an additional 400 million dollars to do some project that really didn't need doing. What makes the system even more evil, is the company that stands to make that 400 million, pays lobbyists to write that bill, donates money to a senator to sponsor it, and pays government to give them money.
And you say it's the best system of regulation?
We are getting nickled and dimed to death, while lobbyist are making out like bandits... Have you been to DC lately? Or surrounding areas? There isnt a no recession there... All our money, taken, focused into DC, given to a small number to live high on the hog, while we get no real value out of it.
"I find your lack of faith in the free market disturbing..." ... spoken in the voice of Darth Vader.
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I've always liked a lot of what Paul has to say. (And for the record, he is NOT a racist, had nothing to do with the editorial content of that newsletter, and his ideology runs completely perpendicular to bigotry).
Where I differ with Paul (and I suspect his son) is his clamoring for completely unregulated free market capitalism.
Yup, I agree so far....
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Originally Posted by PressCoverage
If we've learned anything the past 50 years, it's that private enterprise can not be counted on to help or protect their fellow Americans, and care only for bottom-line profit, even if that means putting their fellow Americans in peril. It's largely the reason we are where we are. Greed. And at the core of free market capitalism IS greed.
Wow...I'm agreeing once again!
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Originally Posted by PressCoverage
I don't agree with big government, especially when it doesn't act ethically. But there is far more accountability with government oversight than there is with unchecked private enterprise. We need look no further than triple-billed Iraq reconstruction and Katrina aid to be convinced of that fact.
Holy Mackeral....I can't believe we agree on 3 consecutive points!!!
I better stop now before I have a manic-meltdown or whatever you called it!
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