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PatsFanInVa · 11-11-2009, 10:45 AM

Two points worth considering:

1) (File under "Conspiracy," for now): For those who feel the coverage doesn't all add up... and some of the story is actually pretty peculiar, for example the "red and yellow flags" mentioned above:

1a. If I am setting up a sting and I have a slightly unhinged low level neighborhood dealer on the line, do I storm in and make the bust, or do I observe him and wait to follow a trail to a bigger fish, or wait until he is a bigger fish? What if that's what the FBI wanted to do? It would certainly explain ignoring what warning signs they saw regarding his unbalanced behavior, and even recommending that his promotion go through.

1b. Given the intent, and given the resulting actions, IF this is the case, is it a tactic that should be reconsidered?

2) (File under parallelism): I've logged my opinion that he shows far more signs of being a nut than being the spearhead of an Islamist fifth column in America

... but you'll note none of us are in support of such a fifth column forming. I simply believe he is more motivated by personal "grievances" than by Islam or outside ties.

Recently, however, our local rightists celebrated the "Oathkeepers" who essentially say they will kill who they want in the interests of whatever they believe that day -- not on the orders that come down the military chain of command, ultimately from the C in C -- when they so desire.

Essentially, to the extent ideology plays a part, this is simply what the Oathkeepers claim the right to do.

PFnV

maverick4 · 11-11-2009, 11:37 AM

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Look it, if the reports are true, then it's very possible that a harder look at the major was avoided so people like you couldn't accuse the Government or Army of profiling. Imagine the shytstorm if he was legitamately disharged. There would be an automatic charge of racism and profiling by the far left.

Red and yellow flags were alledgedly lying all over the place and there were dots that should have been connected or at the very least looked at to see if they could be connected. How is that profiling?

You write as if you think no person of Islamic faith was ever discharged from the US military, that the country is so over-run with political correct-ness that this could all have been prevented if we started profiling people for their religion. If there really were obvious dots all over the place, as you mention, then he should have been looked at for the evidence against him, not simply because of his religion. He WAS looked at, but it's hard to say a few years back that this guy would have definitely snapped and gone on a killing rampage.

***Harry Boy*** · 11-11-2009, 01:17 PM

The women who used to be the liberals "most hated" before Sarah came along wrote this, I DIDN"T.

Today:
Before shooting up a medical facility on that Army base, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan reportedly shouted “Allahu Akbar.”

While Hasan gave a shout-out to Allah before shooting, President Obama gave a shout-out to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow” before getting around to mentioning the massacre on the day it happened.

President Obama's response to abortionist George Tiller was “I am shocked and outraged by the murder of Dr. George Tiller.”

President Obama’s response to the slaughter of 13 Americans by a Muslim at a U.S. military installation was to instruct Americans not to “jump to any conclusions.”

There was a risk that right-wingers’s would start playing the old “Blame The Perpetrator” game.
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alvinnf · 11-11-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanInVa

Two points worth considering:

1) (File under "Conspiracy," for now): For those who feel the coverage doesn't all add up... and some of the story is actually pretty peculiar, for example the "red and yellow flags" mentioned above:

1a. If I am setting up a sting and I have a slightly unhinged low level neighborhood dealer on the line, do I storm in and make the bust, or do I observe him and wait to follow a trail to a bigger fish, or wait until he is a bigger fish? What if that's what the FBI wanted to do? It would certainly explain ignoring what warning signs they saw regarding his unbalanced behavior, and even recommending that his promotion go through.
PFnV

I think your completely right here. It's not that they were afraid of the PC backlash. I think they waited too long in hopes of finding some links to a greater mass of individuals either here or abroad.

***reflexblue*** · 11-11-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Boy

The women who used to be the liberals "most hated" before Sarah came along wrote this, I DIDN"T.

Today:
Before shooting up a medical facility on that Army base, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan reportedly shouted “Allahu Akbar.”

While Hasan gave a shout-out to Allah before shooting, President Obama gave a shout-out to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow” before getting around to mentioning the massacre on the day it happened.

President Obama's response to abortionist George Tiller was “I am shocked and outraged by the murder of Dr. George Tiller.”

President Obama’s response to the slaughter of 13 Americans by a Muslim at a U.S. military installation was to instruct Americans not to “jump to any conclusions.”

There was a risk that right-wingers’s would start playing the old “Blame The Perpetrator” game.
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I didn't say this either...if someone told the neo-cons that obama can walk on water they would say thats cause he can't swim....

***Harry Boy*** · 11-11-2009, 01:30 PM

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I didn't say this either...if someone told the neo-cons that obama can walk on water they would say thats cause he can't swim....

Probably............................

State · 11-12-2009, 10:13 AM

Mav4 is thinking along the lines of one of our outstanding thinkers and statesman. No, I'm not talking about Mike Tyson.

Libtalker Montel Williams Warns Of Extreme Reaction To Fort Hood Shootings Concentration camps for them? Come on, that's so FDR.

He must have been a Republican like a liberal recently assured me that Lincoln was a Democrat. We have such education going on nowadays! It must be that the stimulus, that beloved stimulus, has provided $80 billion to the federal Dept. of Education for them to spend at their leisure, only keeping the receipts.

***Harry Boy*** · 11-12-2009, 11:41 AM

The real reason behind this dear mans mental breakdown was the fact that he never as a young boy Had A Bike.

***DarrylS*** · 11-12-2009, 01:30 PM

The latest is Pete Hoekstra, is citing unnamed sources not known to the intelligency community, that he was wiring money to Pakistan...

How the f... cannot our intelligence community not know this??? Please never tell me that the beltway is not controlling the news and what they want us to know... "sources outside the intelligence community"... how much is the Homeland Security Budget?????

Fort Hood shootings suspect may have wired money to Pakistan | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News

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Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., said sources "outside of the [intelligence] community" learned about Hasan's possible connections to the Asian country, which faces a massive Islamist insurgency and is widely believed to be Osama bin Laden's hiding place.

Hoekstra, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, would not identify the sources. But he said "they are trying to follow up on it because they recognize that if there are communications – phone or money transfers with somebody in Pakistan – it just raises a whole other level of questions."