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Old 10-21-2009, 10:05 AM   #21
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Hey morons. A "risk pool" doesn't work if you only pay for the parts you use. Then it's a fee-for-service system.
No, moron (hey, you started it), you can still have a risk pool while paying for only the parts of the risk you have a chance of. I may want to add dental coverage, that doesn't mean I'll use it but I would pay to insure myself against it. Someone - like you, perhaps - may want to insure himself against psychiatric problems even if he doesn't need it now.
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:05 AM   #22
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This a PERFECT example of your over-seriousness and a PRIME example of taking a question FAR beyond what was asked.
I rather think you're under-serious of late, PR.

Facts matter. Reason matters. We're talking about making the best possible decision, not what you can most happily shout over a couple of budweisers.

If you're spouting off on a given topic, don't be surprised if somebody thinks it through or is aware of other points of view. You have a right to post from your own point of view, at the level of thoroughness or lack thereof with which you're comfortable. In short, you're welcome to be a lightweight. Nobody's going to say it breaks the forum rules that you can't support your opinions. But they will be exposed as emotional reactions without intellectual gravitas, so long as you insist on posting that way (and even more absurdly, insist that others follow suit.)

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No one gives a rats arse if you feel bad about someones health coverage in Timbuktwo or even your neighbor. That's not you problem, it's theirs. Just answer the question as asked like everyone else.
Actually that would be a poll post with no discussion options. As polls are incorporated into threads on this forum, discussion is implied in the posting of any poll. You've never had this problem when a poll was posted in the past.

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JEESH!!

"Well....what if suddenly my coverage changes and the guy in Wyoming"s doesn't but we have the same provider? (sound of rapid gum-chewing kicks in...) and....and....Well, I just don't think that's fair!"
Risk pool dude. Look into it.

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No, moron (hey, you started it), you can still have a risk pool while paying for only the parts of the risk you have a chance of. I may want to add dental coverage, that doesn't mean I'll use it but I would pay to insure myself against it. Someone - like you, perhaps - may want to insure himself against psychiatric problems even if he doesn't need it now.
So I have no children. I'm married to a woman past child-bearing age. Should we exempt me from the cost of the childhood-disease portion of my premium? Bear in mind that if you have children your premiums will skyrocket so I can take this free ride.

How about gays? Shouldn't they be exempt from that portion of a premium that deals with childhood diseases?

How about a man married to a woman who may need OB-Gyn services? They are legally a single economic entity for all intents and purposes, and she does not become spontaneously pregnant. Shouldn't THAT guy get charged, but not me?

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So I have no children. I'm married to a woman past child-bearing age. Should we exempt me from the cost of the childhood-disease portion of my premium? Bear in mind that if you have children your premiums will skyrocket so I can take this free ride.
That's fine. And, no, my premiums would not skyrocket. I would have no problem with you not getting health insurance for kids in your situation.

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How about gays? Shouldn't they be exempt from that portion of a premium that deals with childhood diseases?
Like anyone else, insurance for kids should be an option for them.

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How about a man married to a woman who may need OB-Gyn services? They are legally a single economic entity for all intents and purposes, and she does not become spontaneously pregnant. Shouldn't THAT guy get charged, but not me?
You shouldn't need to buy insurance for that. How the other guy and his wife deal with it, as a couple of individuals, is up to them.

Should I be forced to get boat and motorcycle insurance on my auto insurance even though I have neither a boat or a motorcycle ?
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I rather think you're under-serious of late, PR.

Facts matter. Reason matters. We're talking about making the best possible decision, not what you can most happily shout over a couple of budweisers.

If you're spouting off on a given topic, don't be surprised if somebody thinks it through or is aware of other points of view. You have a right to post from your own point of view, at the level of thoroughness or lack thereof with which you're comfortable. In short, you're welcome to be a lightweight. Nobody's going to say it breaks the forum rules that you can't support your opinions. But they will be exposed as emotional reactions without intellectual gravitas, so long as you insist on posting that way (and even more absurdly, insist that others follow suit.)



Actually that would be a poll post with no discussion options. As polls are incorporated into threads on this forum, discussion is implied in the posting of any poll. You've never had this problem when a poll was posted in the past.



Risk pool dude. Look into it.

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No, moron (hey, you started it), you can still have a risk pool while paying for only the parts of the risk you have a chance of.
Well, Moron, that should read "paying only for the parts of the risk you think you have a chance at" since you've already stated you don't want to be paying for some "womanly" disease.

While we're at it, you can hope that you don't end up being one of the two thousand men who are going to be diagnosed with breast cancer in the next 12 months.
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Well, Moron, that should read "paying only for the parts of the risk you think you have a chance at" since you've already stated you don't want to be paying for some "womanly" disease.

While we're at it, you can hope that you don't end up being one of the two thousand men who are going to be diagnosed with breast cancer in the next 12 months.
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Well, Moron, that should read "paying only for the parts of the risk you think you have a chance at" since you've already stated you don't want to be paying for some "womanly" disease.
I have no problem with insurance with female issues as my wife may need it. However if I were single that would be different. Just like I don't expect you to pay for my kids' health.
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No, moron (hey, you started it), you can still have a risk pool while paying for only the parts of the risk you have a chance of. I may want to add dental coverage, that doesn't mean I'll use it but I would pay to insure myself against it. Someone - like you, perhaps - may want to insure himself against psychiatric problems even if he doesn't need it now.
Or maybe they do need it now, but are just in denial about it, and thus will forgo it's use just the same.
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There are 2 kinds of conversationalist.

Conversationalist 1 - Speaks or voices his thoughts and opinions. Then listens to the other person. And then comments directly upon what the other person says.

Conversationalist 2 - Speaks thens waits to speak (as he thinks of what HE is going to say next). He is incapable of truly listening.

Conversationalist 2 isn't really a conversationalist at all. He's an egotistical idiot.
I'm confused - which type of Conversationalist do you think you are?

You forgot Coversationalist 3 - you know, the one who throws in every he can find when he's unwilling to actually take the time to back his opinion up with fact and who says things like sound of gum snapping and eye rolling and who uses terms which can be defined as sexist although he immediately denies that they were and who whines constantly that only the thread starter can determine the direction the thread takes whenever someone takes exception to a point he's poorly presented.
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