Patters

Harry Boy

PFIEL,
Be careful, don't call the poor little munchkin "Neo Libs" any "swear words" you will be banned. They are all confused now, Bush is bringing some Troops Home, this has them all upset, in a few weeks they will have to go back to complining about the "Votes In Florida" and "Bush's DUI"

Zuma

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/17/AR2005111700794.html

Hawkish Democrat Joins Call For Pullout
GOP Assails Murtha's Demand to Leave Iraq

By Charles Babington
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, November 18, 2005; Page A01

The top House Democrat on military spending matters stunned colleagues yesterday by calling for the immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, while many congressional Democrats reacted defiantly to President Bush's latest attack on his critics.

Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.), a decorated Vietnam War veteran, said many of those troops are demoralized and poorly equipped and, after more than two years of war, are impeding Iraq's progress toward stability and self-governance.

U.S. Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa) calls for the withdrawal of U.S. military personnel from Iraq while at a news conference on Capitol Hill November 17, 2005. Murtha called the war "a flawed policy wrapped in illusion" and noted a shift in public sentiment against the war. REUTERS/Larry Downing (Larry Downing -- Reuters)

"Our troops have become the primary target of the insurgency," Murtha said in a Capitol news conference that left him in tears. Islamic insurgents "are united against U.S. forces, and we have become a catalyst for violence," he said. ". . . It's time to bring them home."

Murtha's action, coupled with stinging rhetoric from the White House, was the catalyst for a remarkable outpouring of rage on Capitol Hill about Iraqi war policy, an issue that for months was relatively dormant but now is dominating congressional debate.

In sometimes vitriolic terms, Republican leaders accused Democrats of siding with terrorists, and Democrats countered that Bush deceived the nation in starting a war that he has no strategy for ending. The bitter exchanges came as polls show Americans are increasingly eager to have Iraqis assume control so U.S. troops can come home.

Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) declared: "Murtha and Democratic leaders have adopted a policy of cut and run. They would prefer that the United States surrender to the terrorists who would harm innocent Americans. To add insult to injury, this is done while the president is on foreign soil."

Patters

Harry, why would we be upset about this? This is what we've been arguing and fighting for. It's a victory for us. When the leader of our country is in the opposing party, the primary victories we get are when that leader caves in. But, what's better, is that not only is Bush caving in, but you think he's doing the right thing! Thank you. You should have listened to us sooner.

Harry Boy

Because BUSH will get the credit for it, not Sarandon, Sheehan, Moore, The NY Times or Al (Frog Face) Franken.

Here is a Liberal

Harry Boy

THE "NEO LIBS" HATED GW BUSH LONG BEFOR THE WAR STARTED, THE REASON, THEY COULD NEVER BEAT HIM.

I AM WILLING TO BET THE FARM HE WILL DO IT AGAIN, THE RABBIT WILL SOON COME OUT OF THE HAT, (MAYBE, WMD'S, BIN LADEN)?????

WE WILL SEE, IF I AM WRONG I TOO WILL START CALLING BUSH "DIRTY NAMES"

THE KERRY/BUSH ELECTION, THE SORE LOSERS WILL NEVER GET OVER IT.

THE LIBERAL

Zuma

John Murtha helped force Dubya's hand. God bless John Murtha.

All_Around_Brown

This drawdown was a very calculated exercise in political maneuvering, part and parcel to Bush's larger image resurrection plan- courtesy of Rover. They beefed up security before the election, a bit of news that falls to the back page, and then voila, "look, we're withdrawing troops as you wish". But its not what Murtha has called for, and will never be. Recall he asked for redeployment in 6 months "just over the horizon". That won't happen, so don't fool yourself. Bush is not listening to his commanders, because as usual Rover is calling for political achievements at home that are not yet met. A drawdown would be suicide for him as his remaining base is largely made up of holy war crusaders and big oil money corporatists, neither one wants a pull back. When you have courted this base, you don't cut the hand that feeds you.

Truth is, a bulk force will be required for decades. The FOBs will be completed before long and will ensure the occupation remains until someone else takes over, or the body bags pile up too high for our collective american tastes.

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Harry Boy

You'll See.

This is a sore losing liberal dingobat

All_Around_Brown

Do you actually put any thought into your posts, or just childish name-calling and silly emoticons?

We know the internet thingy is new to you, but c'mon man. You're a self proclaimed libertarian, don't bring us down with the playground namecalling stuff. Show us you have some idea of whats going on.

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