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I saw this film recently, and came away with mixed feelings. Definitely very "Fog of War", Errol Morris-like.
The subject's foundation is sound, and definitely a lot has come true. But his is very much a worst-case scenario glimpse into the near future.
I have little doubt global resource depletion is real, and that commodity markets control the global economy; but I'm not ready to say mankind can't find a way out of it if it pulls its collective head from its ass. Though, our electorate gives us little indication to believe otherwise lately.
I just watched the film after seeing this post. Although I like films like this a lot, critically speaking, I didn't find much fact, or substance to any claim he made. He Claimed the facts were backing up what he said, but I would have like to see a chart, or report which showed Saudi Arabia 9% decline in Oil Production.
So overall, I feel like films like FOOD, INC. are constructed better, and shed real light on issues, and back it up with dot connection after dot connection with facts....
This, although I do believe we are on a consumption course of destruction... I didn't see him offer any real facts, to differentiate anything he is saying from the people who were saying the same things as it was in the 70s. An issue he actually addresses. And like in the 70s, the second someone invests a new extraction process... we buy another 30 years perhaps???
He theories, and ideas are valid only on the assumption that we aren't actively trying to solve these issues right now with Peak Oil. All it takes is another new route, or another new oil field somewhere, and boom... this system and cycle can live on for another 40 years...
I just watched the film after seeing this post. Although I like films like this a lot, critically speaking, I didn't find much fact, or substance to any claim he made. He Claimed the facts were backing up what he said, but I would have like to see a chart, or report which showed Saudi Arabia 9% decline in Oil Production.
So overall, I feel like films like FOOD, INC. are constructed better, and shed real light on issues, and back it up with dot connection after dot connection with facts....
I think the film is presented under the assumption viewers are familiar with the man's vast body of work already, including fromthewilderness.com and his speaking engagements since 9/11.
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This, although I do believe we are on a consumption course of destruction... I didn't see him offer any real facts, to differentiate anything he is saying from the people who were saying the same things as it was in the 70s. An issue he actually addresses. And like in the 70s, the second someone invests a new extraction process... we buy another 30 years perhaps???
The things said in the 70s were based on misinterpretations and straw man creation over the "Limits to Growth" paper, which was ultimately accurate. The diagnosis in that paper pointed to a peak in the first decade of the new century, NOT the early 80's, as some try to claim.
Whatever people misconstrued from what that report actually said is not the fault of the Club of Rome in the least.
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He theories, and ideas are valid only on the assumption that we aren't actively trying to solve these issues right now with Peak Oil. All it takes is another new route, or another new oil field somewhere, and boom... this system and cycle can live on for another 40 years...
And this is valid only under the assumption that the world hasn't been scoured many times over already. It has.
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Michael Ruppert is an extremely bright man on many levels. I think he's one of the few people I've ever read about with an inate ability to see straight through the forest for the truth.
Having said that, he's not a guru and one thing I can't stand are people who follow personalities as they're giving the sermon on the mount.
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