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Old 10-02-2009, 02:53 PM   #1
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Default The Jewish and Athiest/Agnostic Support Obama The Most.

I'm always a bit perplexed on this religious polls. We're supposed to be a country of seperation of church and state and yet religious support or lack of support is still way huge. So for what it's worth here it is ...



So I have a few questions for the membership at large:

~ Is Romney wasting his time?

~ Does this mean an Athiest/Agnostic Could emerge in the future?

~ Would we be better off with an Athiest/Agnostic in the Oval Office?

` Would the Christian right leave the country if the above happened?
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Old 10-02-2009, 03:19 PM   #2
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Default Re: The Jewish and Athiest/Agnostic Support Obama The Most.

This came up in another thread earlier in the day, and most of the founding fathers were deists.. a religious and philosophical belief that a supreme being created the universe, and that this (and religious truth in general) can be determined using reason and observation of the natural world alone, without a need for either faith or organized religion.

This group include Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Paine, Washington... so a lot of what we were taught is a myth.. they believed in god, but did not have a formal religion.

My fave quote about the church/state.. by Diderot.

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Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
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This came up in another thread earlier in the day, and most of the founding fathers were deists.. a religious and philosophical belief that a supreme being created the universe, and that this (and religious truth in general) can be determined using reason and observation of the natural world alone, without a need for either faith or organized religion.

This group include Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Paine, Washington... so a lot of what we were taught is a myth.. they believed in god, but did not have a formal religion.

My fave quote about the church/state.. by Diderot.

Good stuff there ... somewhere along the way we got lossed.
I grew up Catholic - prefer to call my self Christian and I hate the mixing of politics and religion.
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Not quite sure why Jewish support for Obama is so high. The guy is trying to appease Muslim countries that flat out hate and, in some cases want to see Israel leveled and destroyed (according to their leaders anyway). Maybe it's because of Rahm?
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Not quite sure why Jewish support for Obama is so high. The guy is trying to appease Muslim countries that flat out hate and, in some cases want to see Israel leveled and destroyed (according to their leaders anyway). Maybe it's because of Rahm?

These are secular Jews, "cultural" Jews, like Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Barbra Streisand, Madelyn Murray O'Hare, etc. A high percentage of such folks are atheist/agnostic. They're pissed at God and Christians for the Holocaust. Therefore they hate God and Christian ideas in the schools and public places. They must like Obama's "preacher", Rev Wright, for his incendiary rants against America, and Obama's tutors, like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.


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These are secular Jews, "cultural" Jews, like Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Barbra Streisand, Madelyn Murray O'Hare, etc. A high percentage of such folks are atheist/agnostic. They're pissed at God and Christians for the Holocaust. Therefore they hate God and Christian ideas in the schools and public places. They must like Obama's "preacher", Rev Wright, for his incendiary rants against America, and Obama's tutors, like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.


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Your first part is probably true, but than you go so far out there with the next point, that I even find it offensive.
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Good stuff there ... somewhere along the way we got lossed.
I grew up Catholic - prefer to call my self Christian and I hate the mixing of politics and religion.
As did I, did not have a choice after a divorce.. they do not want me.. I too am probably more of a christian, than anything else...
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Your first part is probably true, but than you go so far out there with the next point, that I even find it offensive.

What are the first and second parts?? Sorry, don't follow what you're saying. How else can you explain the fact that the ACLU and their allies have just about ethnically cleansed all faith from the public square all throughout America?


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Another f.. ing hijack, every day on every thread..
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