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Old 10-01-2009, 02:21 PM   #1
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Revealed: millions spent by lobby firms fighting Obama health reforms

Six lobbyists for every member of Congress as healthcare industry heaps cash on politicians to water down legislation

Revealed: millions spent by lobbyists fighting Obama health reforms | World news | guardian.co.uk



Ignoring the for or against healthcare part of things you have to admit there is something broken if commercial interests can inject $380 million of influence into a debate.
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:23 PM   #2
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Glad to see it coming out even if it was in the UK, the lobbyist and big med insurance folks fed the hysteria during the town halls.. they helped with the 9/12 stuff, as much as many are discriminating.. there are a whole bunch of lemmings who follow their implicit orders...
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I'll tell ya what - this is not all that's going on.

I work for a physician who specializes in Sports and Rehab medicine. Five times in the last 3 weeks I've received the fax reprinted on the bottom of this post.

You can't quite see it on the attachment, but each time we receive it my doctor's name is on it as one of the "concerned physicians" who are "advising" the GOP.

No one ever ASKED him if he wanted his name attached to this. No one even asked if he supported their cause or not - they just keep sending it around to physician's offices, hospitals, clinics, etc. etc. God only knows where it's going or who is being led to believe that he's involved in this.

Truth is, my doc is all FOR health care reform. And he's quite happy with Obama's proposal(s) as they currently exist.

They did call the office twice in between sendings - and twice I informed them, in no uncertain terms, that we did NOT appreciate their unauthorized use of our name. It hasn't stopped them, however, they're still sending us the fax. I assume they're still sending the fax to everyone else, too - still using my doc's name without permission. In fact, using it after being expressly told not to.

There was an article about it in Slate and Huffington Post a few weeks ago - right after we got the first batch of faxes and phone calls. Doesn't seem to do any good, tho, I got another one yesterday.

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Prepare for your comments to be minimized... this is really great information.. have contended this all along, the folks who have the most to loose.. the ins companies are spending big bucks to stop this.
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Interesting little list of exactly what congressman received what from drug companies and/or health insurers.

In the first six months of the year, health care interests donated $19.7 million to all federal lawmakers. More than 40% — $8.1 million — went to the campaign and political action committees of lawmakers on the five House and Senate committees that are working on health care.

Craig Holman, of the watchdog group Public Citizen, said the giving allows health care lobbyists "to get one-on-one time with officeholders" as lawmakers craft legislation.

Chuck Grassley saw his health care industry donations soar this year — from $53,200 during the first three months of the year to $125,800 during the second quarter. So far this year, he is the top GOP recipient of health care industry donations in the Senate.


You can find the entire comprehensive list in the link below.

Health care lobbyists boost key players in debate - USATODAY.com
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And ??? If anyone thinks this doesn't happen on both sides for all issues you are being silly. Just like obama is buying (with promises and threats) the support of the drug companies and others.
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And ??? If anyone thinks this doesn't happen on both sides for all issues you are being silly. Just like obama is buying (with promises and threats) the support of the drug companies and others.


Please tell me the name of the group that is funding campaigs with millions to create a public option or single payer?

what lobby is that again?

I'd gladly throw them some $$$




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And ??? If anyone thinks this doesn't happen on both sides for all issues you are being silly. Just like obama is buying (with promises and threats) the support of the drug companies and others.
Ya know what? I don't care if the Dems are throwing money at a campaign to support health care reform - I don't send the Dems my insurance premiums every month. I don't even care if the pharms are getting in bed with health care reform, or if a doctor's association is getting in bed with health care reform, or if any other non-premium collecting son of a biatch is getting in bed with them - so long as I am not the one whose money they are using.

I DO care that my insurance premiums keep going up, my co-pays keep going up, my deductibles keep going up and the people who raise all those things are using MY dollars to buy lobbyists and politicians who will assure them that they will be allowed to continue raising MY expenses to them while they, in turn, are cutting benefits to ME.

Anyone with an ounce of sense could figure that one out.
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Please tell me the name of the group that is funding campaigs with millions to create a public option or single payer?

what lobby is that again?

I'd gladly throw them some $$$

I'll wait for your answer.
Did you read what I said ? Evidently not as I didn't say that.
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