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Old 09-19-2009, 11:41 AM   #1
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Why I threw the shoe
by Muntazer al-Zaidi
"I am no hero. I just acted as an Iraqi who witnessed the pain and bloodshed of too many innocents

"I am free. But my country is still a prisoner of war. There has been a lot of talk about the action and about the person who took it, and about the hero and the heroic act, and the symbol and the symbolic act. But, simply, I answer: what compelled me to act is the injustice that befell my people, and how the occupation wanted to humiliate my homeland by putting it under its boot."

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"I say to those who reproach me: do you know how many broken homes that shoe which I threw had entered? How many times it had trodden over the blood of innocent victims? Maybe that shoe was the appropriate response when all values were violated.

"When I threw the shoe in the face of the criminal, George Bush, I wanted to express my rejection of his lies, his occupation of my country, my rejection of his killing my people. My rejection of his plundering the wealth of my country, and destroying its infrastructure. And casting out its sons into a diaspora."
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:05 PM   #2
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What would have happened if he threw a shoe at
Saddam, Udday or Qusay?????


They cared so much about the people of Iraq as you can tell by this
article. We are not talking about stories from NewsMax, or Little Green
footballs. We are talking about CNN (As liberal is it get's). We are not
talking about Bill O'Rielly or Glen Beck. We are talking about Christiane Amanpour.

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CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Paula, well, in short, they were the enforcers. They were the untouchables. They were Saddam's sons. And they had the run of Iraq, essentially. They had formal jobs.

Uday himself had a number of formal jobs. He was a newspaper editor. Had a television station. He was head of the Olympic Committee, sports teams, a member of Parliament, and ruthless enforcer of various certain security organizations. But Qusay had more of the responsible role in the later years, for being head of the Republican Guard unit and also his father's Special Republican Guard, the special bodyguard.

They have -- any number of stories, any number of eyewitness accounts, any number of defectors, human rights organizations, will tell horror stories about those two. I mean, so awful were their methods of torture and repression, that it really entered the realm of almost the ridiculous sort of dictators and their kind of excesses, I mean, things like putting bodies in shredders, putting people in acid baths, making them do all sorts of terrible things.

Uday, who was known for basically his sexual proclivities, he was known for having his thugs go take women off the streets, so that he could rape them. Really, the most terrible things, these people did. And they were very much hated. And, certainly, when we were in Iraq after the war and after the fall of Baghdad, people told us that they were just really glad that these people had been deposed.

They were so hated, but also feared. And, certainly, people were very, very afraid, up until today, that Uday and Qusay may come back. But the fact that they have gone does not remove the shadow of the big ogre, if you like, that still hangs over Iraq. And that is the shadow of Saddam Hussein. Where is he? Why hasn't he been caught? Is he on the run? Is he conducting some kind of guerrilla campaign? These people are very afraid.

And any number of people will tell you that, until Saddam Hussein's body is shown to them, they won't believe it. They're afraid he's coming back. So all of this is a good day, in terms of getting rid of No. 2 and 3 on the list on the most-hated list. But there is still that open question. Where is Saddam and what kind of mischief is he going to be able to continue to create there? ZAHN: And, Christiane, there's been an awful lot of discussion today about why these two brothers were in the northwestern part of the country, not a part of the country that is highly supportive of Saddam Hussein. Some people thought perhaps they were on their way to Syria. No one can confirm that. Were you surprised they were killed where they were killed?

AMANPOUR: The location, I wasn't terribly surprised -- or not surprised by. But the fact that they were together I thought was rather interesting. And then the question about, where is Saddam? Clearly, Saddam cares more about himself -- and he is being protected, presumably, somewhere else -- than about his two sons.

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Why I threw the shoe
by Muntazer al-Zaidi
"I am no hero. I just acted as an Iraqi who witnessed the pain and bloodshed of too many innocents

"I am free. But my country is still a prisoner of war. There has been a lot of talk about the action and about the person who took it, and about the hero and the heroic act, and the symbol and the symbolic act. But, simply, I answer: what compelled me to act is the injustice that befell my people, and how the occupation wanted to humiliate my homeland by putting it under its boot."

<snip>....

"I say to those who reproach me: do you know how many broken homes that shoe which I threw had entered? How many times it had trodden over the blood of innocent victims? Maybe that shoe was the appropriate response when all values were violated.

"When I threw the shoe in the face of the criminal, George Bush, I wanted to express my rejection of his lies, his occupation of my country, my rejection of his killing my people. My rejection of his plundering the wealth of my country, and destroying its infrastructure. And casting out its sons into a diaspora."
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This guy simply did what a lot of Iraqis and Americans alike wanted to do to Bush. I will say that the Chimp has some excellent reflexes.

By the way, why are left wingers so dead set on talking about Bush still? The guy has been out of office for almost eight months now. In case you haven't heard, we have a whole new train wreck in office. I could care less about Bush now. If/when he gets prosecuted for war crimes then call me and let me know.
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Ten minutes of fame ..... via the undue "diligence" of some in the media.



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This guy simply did what a lot of Iraqis and Americans alike wanted to do to Bush. I will say that the Chimp has some excellent reflexes.

By the way, why are left wingers so dead set on talking about Bush still? The guy has been out of office for almost eight months now. In case you haven't heard, we have a whole new train wreck in office. I could care less about Bush now. If/when he gets prosecuted for war crimes then call me and let me know.
They did it with Reagan for a long time whenever they wanted to b!tch about something their favorite comeback was "during the reagan years".
Reagan can rest in peace now they've got Bush even this Jerk Obama does it he doesn't say the word Bush much he has his own sneakylittle way of doing it, he says "the previous administration"

BUSH CREATED KATRINA UP ON THE ROOF OF THE WHITE HOUSE BY RUBBING TWO CHICKEN BONES TOGETHER
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Wonder if he threw a shoe at Saddam over the mass graves and gassing the Kurds?

Probably not he didn't want to go into Udays plastic shredder I guess.
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By the way, why are left wingers so dead set on talking about Bush still? The guy has been out of office for almost eight months now. In case you haven't heard, we have a whole new train wreck in office. I could care less about Bush now. If/when he gets prosecuted for war crimes then call me and let me know.
Distraction from the stalled bills in Congress...the same reason why the Carter racism claims were brought out. Anything to keep the focus off Congress and the President on someone else, distraction from reality.
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Wonder if he threw a shoe at Saddam over the mass graves and gassing the Kurds?

Probably not he didn't want to go into Udays plastic shredder I guess.

Yes, the America haters know they can get away with murder because America always gives others lots and lots of consideration; Americans always ask: "what did I do wrong?". Meanwhile, dictators and fascist/communists always kill anybody who even breathes the wrong way.

But the day of turn-around is coming. Keep the faith in what is true and right.

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Distraction from the stalled bills in Congress...the same reason why the Carter racism claims were brought out. Anything to keep the focus off Congress and the President on someone else, distraction from reality.
this is such complete and utter bull*****... please dispense with the misinformation.

i don't know about other left-leaners here, but I don't deflect from anything... genius.

My message has been clear for years here... They are two factions of the same corporate entity. Just because I don't take my eyes off Bush League accountability hardly means I'm deflecting away Congress drama nor the healthcare fiasco. Not for a moment. What kind of lame piss-poor rationalization IS that, anyway? Is your argument so bankrupt that you need to make up a straw man argument of love for the goofy Democrats? LOL...

You won't be getting away with that tired ploy here. It's the kind of weakass tripe this forum expects from goofy Fog. Not you, efin.

Back up, reprogram.

This was an important NEW story of the shoe thrower out of jail finally, and I linked to it. Get over it. His message IS news, whether you like it or not.

If there's ANYONE trying to deflect the past 12 months, it's YOU guys in the "bomb first, ask questions later" camp.
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