What would "Obama-Kennedy-care" look like??? - New England Patriots Forums

Fogbuster · 09-09-2009, 09:35 AM

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Here's a take that gives one pause:

YouTube - ABC's John Stossel Destroys/Pulverizes/Crushes Obama's anti-American 'Health Care' Plan

Kudos to John Stossel and ABC.

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sdaniels7114 · 09-09-2009, 10:04 AM

I must admit Foggy that's cute. Cut out the first 5:45 of a 6:45 video and post what's left as a fair and unbalanced look at what John Stossel has to say about health care.

What you can do to guess at what the plan we're going to get will look like is look at what the Democratic majority in Congress is in agreement about:

1) Universal coverage, by way of a law requiring it for all of us.

2) Help for those who can't afford it.

3) A ban on refusing people with preexisting conditions.

4) A ban on lifetime caps.

5) A ban on dropping people from coverage because they get sick.

I kinda hope the public option finds its way in, not for me I make too much for MA's public option I figure that'll continue with a national plan. However its supremely satisfying to listen to the Republicans scream about how any sort of government plan will kill private business when they've been screaming for 20 years about how the government can't do anything right.

Fogbuster · 09-09-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sdaniels7114

I must admit Foggy that's cute. Cut out the first 5:45 of a 6:45 video and post what's left as a fair and unbalanced look at what John Stossel has to say about health care.
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Can't do that. It's a package deal. The whole enchilada. Gotta have a balanced diet, you know.

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***reflexblue*** · 09-09-2009, 10:40 AM

The Lithuanian constitution of 1992 provides guarantees of social rights that were earlier provided by the Soviet regime. The constitution puts special emphasis on the maintenance and care of the family. It expresses in detail, for example, the guarantee for working mothers to receive paid leave before and after childbirth (Article 39). The constitution provides for free public education in all state schools, including schools of higher education (Article 41). The constitution forbids forced labor (Article 48); legalizes labor unions and the right to strike (Articles 50 and 51); guarantees annual paid vacations (Article 49); and guarantees old-age and disability pensions, unemployment and sick leave compensation, and support for widows and families that have lost their head of household, as well as for others in situations as defined by law (Article 52). Finally, the constitution guarantees free medical care (Article 53).

The national system of social security consists of programs of social insurance and social benefits designed to continue the benefits provided by the Soviet system

Fogbuster · 09-09-2009, 10:55 AM

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The Lithuanian constitution of 1992 provides guarantees of social rights that were earlier provided by the Soviet regime. The constitution puts special emphasis on the maintenance and care of the family. It expresses in detail, for example, the guarantee for working mothers to receive paid leave before and after childbirth (Article 39). The constitution provides for free public education in all state schools, including schools of higher education (Article 41). The constitution forbids forced labor (Article 48); legalizes labor unions and the right to strike (Articles 50 and 51); guarantees annual paid vacations (Article 49); and guarantees old-age and disability pensions, unemployment and sick leave compensation, and support for widows and families that have lost their head of household, as well as for others in situations as defined by law (Article 52). Finally, the constitution guarantees free medical care (Article 53).

The national system of social security consists of programs of social insurance and social benefits designed to continue the benefits provided by the Soviet system

As I've suggested before: please come on over and see what the system is like here. Then, after you've seen it thoroughly, tell me you would trade it for America's system right now. No way, no how.

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***Harry Boy*** · 09-09-2009, 12:58 PM

Health Care Needs Repair But The Wrong People Are Trying To Do It, They Want It All Their Way, They Wanted It Rammed Through Before The Public Could Understand It, Rewrite It, Study It Expalin It.

PELOSI/REID/OBAMA they can not be trusted they are progressive socialists, they are to far to the Left.

America needs leaders that are FOR THE PEOPLE leaders who will fight illegal alien entry, leaders who will put Americans first, leaders who are NOT RACIST, leaders who will end these wars but who will also protect this country from terrorism, political correctness has no place when it comes to defending America.

OBAMA CAN'T BE TRUSTED AND NEITHER COULD MCCAIN THERE ARE BETTER PEOPLE OUT THERE AND THEY COME FROM BOTH PARTYS.

Fogbuster · 09-09-2009, 01:09 PM

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OBAMA CAN'T BE TRUSTED AND NEITHER COULD MCCAIN THERE ARE BETTER PEOPLE OUT THERE AND THEY COME FROM BOTH PARTYS.

I agree there are better people around to work through this monumental moment in history. This is NO TIME for greedy special interests to be setting things up to serve themselves. It took all summer for the Americans to decide on becoming an independent, self-sufficient nation in 1775, and they locked themselves ALL TOGETHER in the Philadelphia chambers until they had all reached an accord, something that served the ideals of a new kind of nation AND which they could all agree to live with. We need the same approach today. ALL sides must come together for the sake of ONE NATION UNDER GOD. Nothing else will work.

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