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Old 08-25-2009, 09:17 AM   #21
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:25 AM   #22
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Is the current administrations persistence in looking backward designed to:
A. Right previous wrongs.
B. Satiate sandal wearing love groupies.
C. Distract Americans from noticing their continuance on matters of war.
D. Show us all that liberals can do the dirty little thing properly going forward.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:01 AM   #23
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A newly declassified version of a CIA report revealed Monday that CIA interrogators once threatened to kill a Sept. 11 suspect's children and suggested another would be forced to watch his mother sexually assaulted.
I'm ok with this. This is like good cop, bad cop. Now, if they actually harmed a child, or assualted a women, that would obviously be a total no go.

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Investigators credited the detention-and-interrogation program for developing intelligence that prevented multiple attacks against Americans.
This shouldn't be a green light to do whatever you please. There should be rules, and there should never be physical abuse of any kind. I'm glad we got useful intell, but we shouldn't sell our soul as a nation, to do so.

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White House officials said they plan to continue the controversial practice of rendition of suspects to foreign countries, though they said that in future cases there would be greater safeguards to ensure such suspects are not tortured.
Did people really think we'd stop? Sure, just like we're leaving Iraq.

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Seeking information about possible further attacks, interrogators threatened one detainee with a gun and a power drill, choked another and tried to frighten still another with a mock execution of another prisoner.
Verbal threats are fine by me. It's good cop, bad cop. The choking is an absolute no-no. Physical abuse is unacceptable. The mock execution of another prisoner is interesting. It reminds me of a terrific scene I saw in the movie "The Untouchables" with Sean Connery, Kevin Costner, and a young Andy Garcia. It's when they raid the a whiskey exchange at the Canadian border, during prohibition, and the accountant they capture won't talk. WEll, won't until this happens.

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Obama has said interrogators would not face charges if they followed legal guidelines, but the report by the CIA's inspector general said they went too far — even beyond what was authorized under Bush era Justice Department legal memos that have since been withdrawn and discredited. The report also suggested some questioners knew they were crossing a line.
I totally agree here. If laws were broken, or authority wasn't given, then people should be prosecuted. Furthermore, I've got no problem with there being an investigation. People need to be held accountable in this country. They need to know that someone is paying attention to what it is they are doing. However, I don't support a dog and pony show, or a policy designed for political purposes.
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Verbal threats are fine by me. It's good cop, bad cop. The choking is an absolute no-no. Physical abuse is unacceptable. The mock execution of another prisoner is interesting. It reminds me of a terrific scene I saw in the movie "The Untouchables" with Sean Connery, Kevin Costner, and a young Andy Garcia. It's when they raid the a whiskey exchange at the Canadian border, during prohibition, and the accountant they capture won't talk. WEll, won't until this happens.

I totally agree here. If laws were broken, or authority wasn't given, then people should be prosecuted. Furthermore, I've got no problem with there being an investigation. People need to be held accountable in this country. They need to know that someone is paying attention to what it is they are doing. However, I don't support a dog and pony show, or a policy designed for political purposes.
Been very consistent in my beliefs on this matter, i.e. let sleeping dogs lie, do something internally, hand out a few wristslaps, change the policy... bringing this out in the public is just another sideshow leading to another devisive period in America.

The reality is stuff happens in the heat of battle, the problem here is it became policy.. that is the slippery slope, as the previous administration institutionalized this stuff and ignored the law. Not sure holding anyone accountable publicly and putting all this on TV will do that much good....
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We all know the real reason behind all this outrage over the CIA, it's just More Get Bush *****.

Real World is right on with his post, there isn't a damn thing wrong with telling some maggot that wants to kill you and your kids that "your going to rape his mother" as long as you don't Rape Her and as long as she doesn't know you said it.

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