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Old 08-20-2009, 09:45 AM   #21
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Arizona is an open carry state. The man was well within his rights to do what he did.
Exercising their rights ok but what about the sixty one year old librarian that was arrested and put in hand cuffs outside of a McCain rally in '08.

She was just trying to exercise her right of free speech, and i could find A LOT more.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/90700/

A 61-year-old librarian was ejected from an ostensibly public McCain campaign event at the Denver Center of Performing Arts in Denver, CO on June 7 because she was brandishing a deadly memetic weapon: a hand-lettered sign that read "McCain=Bush."

Carol Kreck was standing outside the Denver Center for the Performing Arts, which is located on city property. When she was asked to either discard the sign or get out, Ms. Kreck objected that she was standing on city property.
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:47 AM   #22
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First off, Contessa Brewer is very creamable. Mmmmmmmmmm......

Why does MSNBC only show the man from the shirt down? Did these clowns on TV not know, in this "racial overtones" segment, that the man in the video they showed, who is carrying the assault weapon, is um, BLACK!

They either intentially fudged the angle of the video, or are complete jackass'. What say you?

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FYI this guy was a plant, every picture I saw his race was obvious, he was there at the behest of some half baked talk show host in Az., Ernest Han****, bottom line is advocation for some fringe militia group..
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Yup. The guy thought he was going to be tough or scare people, but he should have realized there were snipers pointing at his head the entire time.
I'd venture to guess that the guy knew there would be snipers pointing their crosshairs at his head, but that he didn't give a $%^$ anyway. Not the smartest risk to take, but I guess he felt his broader point was more important. I'd personally never do what he did, but I'm not a gun guy to begin with.
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FYI this guy was a plant, every picture I saw his race was obvious, he was there at the behest of some half baked talk show host in Az., Ernest Han****, bottom line is advocation for some fringe militia group..
Even if that's true, and I'm not saying it isn't, does that suddenly make him white?
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Exercising their rights ok but what about the sixty one year old librarian that was arrested and put in hand cuffs outside of a McCain rally in '08.

She was just trying to exercise her right of free speech, and i could find A LOT more.

Woman Arrested at McCain Event for "McCain=Bush" Sign | Video | AlterNet

A 61-year-old librarian was ejected from an ostensibly public McCain campaign event at the Denver Center of Performing Arts in Denver, CO on June 7 because she was brandishing a deadly memetic weapon: a hand-lettered sign that read "McCain=Bush."

Carol Kreck was standing outside the Denver Center for the Performing Arts, which is located on city property. When she was asked to either discard the sign or get out, Ms. Kreck objected that she was standing on city property.
I remember that incident, and while I support everyone's right to protest, she was not arrested. She was escorted out at the behest of the Secret Service, and the reason was a federal ruling that did not allow signs on the property she was standing in.

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As it happens, the outdoor galleria where she was standing at the Denver Performing Arts Complex was the subject of a federal ruling proclaiming it a "non-public forum" or no-protest zone.
Again, I'm not saying I agree with tossing her out. Peaceful, or legal protests are fine by me, regardless of what they support. the man carrying the gun was outside the event if I read things correctly, and was in a place where carrying is perfectly legal.
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Even if that's true, and I'm not saying it isn't, does that suddenly make him white?
Do not get the context, unless I missed something.. maybe they did not show it on the regular news, but that is why I do not trust the regular news... LGF is fast becoming one of my faves for some balance is this unbalanced world.

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My thinking is that this President already has a rather large target painted on his back. If these people had any respect for the immense task that's fallen to the Secret Service, they'd find some other way to exercise their 'rights.' Its been almost 46 years since we last lost a President to gun violence. I don't believe the country has completely recovered. If something happens to this one we'll all be dead of old age before the awful reverberations are done running their course.

btw I placed the word: rights in quotation marks because there's little evidence that they are exercising their rights. It isn't about their own personal safety, its the typical right-wing act of finding some other way to control things when you lose an election.
Really? Its a typical "right wing act" ??? How do you know the person was a Republican? How do you know he's even a registered voter? Nothing like making a WAG there bud..

What evidence do you have that the person wasn't exercising his rights? Its already been pointed out that, in Arizona, it is a person's RIGHT to carry their weapon in the open as long as they are licensed.

So, what is your "evidence"?
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I suspect that there were some snipers with this guy in their sights, if he made any type of move...
But he didn't, did he??? Not to mention that, even if he moved it, they'd have to have pretty clear evidence that he was making an aggressive act with it and not just adjusting which shoulder it was on..
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But he didn't, did he??? Not to mention that, even if he moved it, they'd have to have pretty clear evidence that he was making an aggressive act with it and not just adjusting which shoulder it was on..
Next time will clarify more clearly, now that I know that you will be watching every move... thanks for keeping us honest on this board.. the move being referred to was an aggressive one, I am aware did not make it clear.. but that was the intent.
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Exercising their rights ok but what about the sixty one year old librarian that was arrested and put in hand cuffs outside of a McCain rally in '08.

She was just trying to exercise her right of free speech, and i could find A LOT more.

Woman Arrested at McCain Event for "McCain=Bush" Sign | Video | AlterNet

A 61-year-old librarian was ejected from an ostensibly public McCain campaign event at the Denver Center of Performing Arts in Denver, CO on June 7 because she was brandishing a deadly memetic weapon: a hand-lettered sign that read "McCain=Bush."

Carol Kreck was standing outside the Denver Center for the Performing Arts, which is located on city property. When she was asked to either discard the sign or get out, Ms. Kreck objected that she was standing on city property.
It all depends on what the individual state's laws are regarding protesting. In some states, they require you to get a permit ahead if time. And there are rules and regulations you have to abide by.

As for standing on city property, that, in and of itself, is reason that she can be asked to leave. What people don't understand is that City Property does not equal Public property. So you are not entitled to do whatever you want on it.
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