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My personal opinion is that it is extremely childish to hate the political party that you don't belong to.
That isn't an intended as an insult in any way, it's just a common sense observation. Thankfully, in America, we don't really have any extremists. We don't bomb those of the opposing party because we are not at war with our fellow citizens.
It's amazing how things can escalate on this board. I have never witnessed such polarization of democrats and republicans in "REAL LIFE" as I do here. But I believe the recession has placed a lot of stress on us and the increase in perceived conflict has resulted.
The anonymity of the internet also breeds an increase in hostilities. It seems many of us come here to vent pent-up anger and frustration. It could even be possible that some of us have issues in our lives that are causing inner turmoil and we come here and transfer that frustration upon "the other party".
Maybe I'm wrong, but as our parents always told us;
"It's wrong to hate"
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My personal opinion is that it is extremely childish to hate the political party that you don't belong to.
That isn't an intended as an insult in any way, it's just a common sense observation. Thankfully, in America, we don't really have any extremists. We don't bomb those of the opposing party because we are not at war with our fellow citizens.
It's amazing how things can escalate on this board. I have never witnessed such polarization of democrats and republicans in "REAL LIFE" as I do here. But I believe the recession has placed a lot of stress on us and the increase in perceived conflict has resulted.
The anonymity of the internet also breeds an increase in hostilities. It seems many of us come here to vent pent-up anger and frustration. It could even be possible that some of us have issues in our lives that are causing inner turmoil and we come here and transfer that frustration upon "the other party".
Maybe I'm wrong, but as our parents always told us;
"It's wrong to hate"
I don't hate any party, but i don't like extemests on either side. Both parties have good ideas and if your and extremest your likely to dismiss any idea the other party has even if its good.
Now on this board the most extreme people as is the case on the street are Rt. wing conservatives, I'm pretty consevative on a number of issues myself like illegal immagration, parental rights, consent, and abortion (can understand both sides of the issue) especialy late term abortion, i'm very pro military. I have to say that i cannot condone the ignorance, anger and vitriol shown here and on the street by the conservative wing of the Republican party, in fact as i'm sure you've noticed i'm always confronting these posters to the point i think most people here think i'm liberal, in some cases i'm not, i just don't like ignorance and hypocracy.
Maybe i'm naive for thinking issues should be judged on their merit pragmatically not by some political litmus test.
It was nearly eleven hundred, and in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT, they were dragging the chairs out of the cubicles and grouping them in the centre of the hall opposite the big telescreen, in preparation for the Two Minutes Hate....
The next moment a hideous, grinding speech, as of some monstrous machine running without oil, burst from the big telescreen at the end of the room. It was a noise that set one's teeth on edge and bristled the hair at the back of one's neck. The Hate had started.
As usual, the face of Emmanuel Goldstein, the Enemy of the People, had flashed on to the screen. There were hisses here and there among the audience. Goldstein was the renegade and backslider who once, long ago (how long ago nobody quite remembered), had been one of the leading figures of the Party, almost on a level with BIG BROTHER himself, and then had engaged in counter-revolutionary activities, had been condemned to death and had mysteriously escaped and disappeared.
The programmes of the Two Minutes Hate varied from day to day, but there was none in which Goldstein was not the principal figure. He was the primal traitor, the earliest defiler of the Party's purity. All subsequent crimes against the Party, all treacheries, acts of sabotage, heresies, deviations, sprang directly out of his teaching. Somewhere or other he was still alive and hatching his conspiracies: perhaps somewhere beyond the sea, under the protection of his foreign paymasters, perhaps even - so it was occasionally rumoured - in some hiding-place in Oceania itself.
Winston's diaphragm was constricted. He could never see the face of Goldstein without a painful mixture of emotions. It was a lean Jewish face, with a great fuzzy aureole of white hair and a small goatee beard - a clever face, and yet somehow inherently despicable, with a kind of senile silliness in the long thin nose, near the end of which a pair of spectacles was perched. It resembled the face of a sheep, and the voice, too, had a sheep-like quality. Goldstein was delivering his usual venemous attack upon the doctrines of the Party - an attack so exaggerated and perverse that a child should have been able to see through it, and yet just plausible enough to fill one with an alarmed feeling that other people, less level-headed than oneself, might be taken in by it. He was abusing BIG BROTHER, he was denouncing the dictatorship of the Party, he was demanding the immediate conclusion of peace with Eurasia, he was advocating freedom of speech, freedom of the Press, freedom of assembly, freedom of thought, he was crying hysterically that the Revolution has been betrayed - and all this in rapid polysyllabic speech which was a sort of parody of the habitual style of the orators of the Party, and even contained Newspeak words: more Newspeak words, indeed, than any Party member would normally use in real life. And all the while, lest one should be in any doubt as to the reality which Goldstein's specious clap trap covered, behind his head on the telescreen there marched the endless columns of the Eurasian army - row after row of solid-looking men with expressionless Asiatic faces, who swam up to the surface of the screen and vanished, to be replaced by others exactly similar. The dull rhythmic tramp of the soldiers' boots formed the background to Goldstein's bleating voice.
Before the Hate had proceeded for thirty seconds, uncontrollable exclamations of rage were breaking out from half the people in the room. The self-satisfied sheep-like face on the screen, and the terrifying power of the Eurasian army behind it, were too much to be borne: besides the sight or even the thought of Goldstein produced fear and anger automatically. He was an object of hatred more constant than either Eurasia or Eastasia, since when Oceania was at war with one of these Powers it was generally at peace with the other. But what was strange was that although Goldstein was hated and despised by everybody, although every day and a thousand times a day, on platforms, on the telescreen, in newspapers, in books, his theories were refuted, smashed, ridiculed, held up to the general gaze for the pitiful rubbish that they were - in spite of all this, his influence never seemed to grow less. Always there were fresh dupes waiting to be seduced by him. A day never passed when spies and saboteurs acting under his directions were not unmasked by the Thought Police. He was the commander of a vast shadowy army, an underground network of conspirators dedicated to the overthrow of the State....
In its second minute the Hate rose to a frenzy. People were leaping up and down in their places and shouting at the tops of their voices in an effort to drown the maddening bleating voice that came from the screen....In a lucid moment Winston found that he was shouting with the others and kicking his heel violently against the rung of his chair. The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining in. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge-hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic...
The Hate rose to its climax. The voice of Goldstein had become an actual sheep's bleat, and for an instant the face changed into that of a sheep. Then the sheep-face melted into the figure of a Eurasian soldier who seemed to be advancing, huge and terrible, his sub-machine gun roaring, and seeming to spring out of the surface of the screen. But in the same moment, drawing a deep sigh of relief from everybody, the hostile figure melted into the face of BIG BROTHER...
Winston had heard the whispered story of a terrible book, a compendium of all the heresies, of which Goldstein was the author and which circulated clandestinely here and there. It was a book without title. People referred to it, if at all, simply as the book. But one knew of such things only through vague rumours. Neither the Brotherhood nor the book was a subject that any ordinary Party member would mention if there was a way of avoiding it.
My personal opinion is that it is extremely childish to hate the political party that you don't belong to.
That isn't an intended as an insult in any way, it's just a common sense observation. Thankfully, in America, we don't really have any extremists. We don't bomb those of the opposing party because we are not at war with our fellow citizens.
It's amazing how things can escalate on this board. I have never witnessed such polarization of democrats and republicans in "REAL LIFE" as I do here. But I believe the recession has placed a lot of stress on us and the increase in perceived conflict has resulted.
The anonymity of the internet also breeds an increase in hostilities. It seems many of us come here to vent pent-up anger and frustration. It could even be possible that some of us have issues in our lives that are causing inner turmoil and we come here and transfer that frustration upon "the other party".
Maybe I'm wrong, but as our parents always told us;
"It's wrong to hate"
I don't hate any party, and I don't consider myself a member of any of them. I always sound like a broken record on this topic, but this polarizing partisanship is doing nothing to help our country. It's fine to disagree, and it's fine to get into a debate. But the way many tend to bicker now solely based on whatever party they or their opponent belong to is gross.
Hate is a word a reserve for a few evil people in history. As far as the Republican Party goes, I think it's at an all-time ethical low point, but I don't hate the Party. It's an American institution that struggling to stay relevant while at the same time holding on to the past. You have multiple viewpoints running at the same time, but the MSM naturally promotes those which are most controversial.
I don't hate any party, but i don't like extemests on either side. Both parties have good ideas and if your and extremest your likely to dismiss any idea the other party has even if its good.
Now on this board the most extreme people as is the case on the street Rt. wing conservatives, I'm pretty consevative on a number of issues myself like illegal immagration, parental rights, consent, and abortion (can understand both sides of the issue) especialy late term abortion. I have to say that i cannot condone the ignorance, anger and vitriol shown here and on the street by the conservative wing of the Republican party, in fact as i'm sure you've noticed i'm always confronting these posters to the point i think most people here think i'm liberal, in some cases i'm not, i just don't like ignorance and hypocracy.
Maybe i'm naive for thinking issues should be judged on their merit pragmatically not by some political litmus test.
Flex, I think you & I have much in common. I interprate the attitude of the righties here to the fact that they lost the election....as a matter of fact, they were embaressed in last year's elections.
The difference between you & I is that people may think you're liberal and think I'm conservative. Which is funny because my social friends often call me a communist.
But you're right on the money with your comments that no party has all the good ideas. I'd hate to live in a this country if we were all democrats or all republicans.
I don't hate any party, and I don't consider myself a member of any of them. I always sound like a broken record on this topic, but this polarizing partisanship is doing nothing to help our country. It's fine to disagree, and it's fine to get into a debate. But the way many tend to bicker now solely based on whatever party they or their opponent belong to is gross.
I think you & I often comment on the ugliness here army...yet we stay.
Do you HATE the other party?
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